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2004 d'Angerville?
- Thread starter slaton
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Keith Levenberg
Keith Levenberg
It better be WAAAAAY less than the going price of the '05. I thought it was good, but didn't buy more when it was $60. I'm guessing it runs a lot more than that now.
It's $70 here, but that still doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement.originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
I thought it was good, but didn't buy more when it was $60. I'm guessing it runs a lot more than that now.
Arjun Mendiratta
Arjun Mendiratta
Do you mean to say that people are selling the '05 for $280?
Anyway, I think the next 3-6 months will bring plenty of opportunities for buying well-priced red Burgundy.
Anyway, I think the next 3-6 months will bring plenty of opportunities for buying well-priced red Burgundy.
originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Do you mean to say that people are selling the '05 for $280?
Anyway, I think the next 3-6 months will bring plenty of opportunities for buying well-priced red Burgundy.
And homes to store them in.
More like $300. Crazy, isn't it?originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Do you mean to say that people are selling the '05 for $280?
It sure is looking that way.originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Anyway, I think the next 3-6 months will bring plenty of opportunities for buying well-priced red Burgundy.
Dan Donahue
Dan Donahue
'04 d'Angerville was reportedly hit hard with the green streak. But I don't have any first hand experience. I have some of the Ducs and it was a quite a bit less than 75% of the (pre-arrival) '05 price.
I'd wait. A lot of the '05s are going to resurface eventually.
I'd wait. A lot of the '05s are going to resurface eventually.
originally posted by slaton:
2004 d'Angerville?I'm seeing '04 Clos des Ducs for less than 25% of the going price of the '05. How did d'Angerville do in '04? Gilman liked it, which has me curious.
I didn't like it and I don't really like 2004 Burgundy much.
It isn't the "green", it is an entirely different problem.
U
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hold on a minute
This is d'Angerville we are talking about. Anyone try their 93s or 96s lately, by mistake, and spend weeks recovering from gustatory nihilism ? Now, add the current trend of 04s, on top of that.
Respect the wine, or in this case, fear the wine.
This is d'Angerville we are talking about. Anyone try their 93s or 96s lately, by mistake, and spend weeks recovering from gustatory nihilism ? Now, add the current trend of 04s, on top of that.
Respect the wine, or in this case, fear the wine.
originally posted by .sasha:
hold on a minute
This is d'Angerville we are talking about. Anyone try their 93s or 96s lately, by mistake, and spend weeks recovering from gustatory nihilism ? Now, add the current trend of 04s, on top of that.
Respect the wine, or in this case, fear the wine.
I had the '93 Volnay 1er Cru bottling within the last year. Didn't seem to need more time, from my memory. Some other patients were there, too. Maybe they remember differently than I do.
But another showing of that wine 3-4 years ago was quite different. So maybe the recent bottle was just an outlier. I'll have to check in on it again once I get the cellar moved.
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
Not lately, but I had one about two years ago and it was drinking fine.originally posted by Brad L i l j e q u i s t:
Anyone had the 00 Champans lately? I have some and have been thinking about opening.
originally posted by Lee Short:
originally posted by .sasha:
hold on a minute
This is d'Angerville we are talking about. Anyone try their 93s or 96s lately, by mistake, and spend weeks recovering from gustatory nihilism ? Now, add the current trend of 04s, on top of that.
Respect the wine, or in this case, fear the wine.
I had the '93 Volnay 1er Cru bottling within the last year. Didn't seem to need more time, from my memory. Some other patients were there, too. Maybe they remember differently than I do.
But another showing of that wine 3-4 years ago was quite different. So maybe the recent bottle was just an outlier. I'll have to check in on it again once I get the cellar moved.
Had another of the 93 1er tonight. Drinking very well, best of the 3-4 bottles I've had in the last couple of years. Pure and precise, not at all like the bottle I took to Pichet. Stunning match with sauteed duck breast with black trumpets and hedgehogs. The duck was from Stokesberry Farms, and this is the one week of the year you can get it fresh and not frozen. Just perfect.
The rest of the duck (other than the breast, that is) either went into the stock pot or is in pre-confit configuration. I am to be prepared for the cassoulet showdown this year...speaking of which, perhaps some logistical preparations are in order.
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by slaton:
2004 d'Angerville?I'm seeing '04 Clos des Ducs for less than 25% of the going price of the '05. How did d'Angerville do in '04? Gilman liked it, which has me curious.
I didn't like it and I don't really like 2004 Burgundy much.
It isn't the "green", it is an entirely different problem.
I've had it and still have a few bottles. It sure seemed green to me. Or under ripe or stemmy or hail damaged or whatever you want to ascribe it to. The prominent critics gave 04s barrel scores that were
pretty much typical averages. The bitter green affliction apparently wasn't manifesting in the cellars or even by the following year visits as none of them issued any alarms till most purchasing decisions had been made.
I've had a few very nice 04s but it's very hard to advise other than to say all the Volnays I've had were not good.