Morgon 2009 at the TGJP

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Pab, thank you.

Why do you taste '09 Morgon now when it is almost certainly not "open for business" ?

Nothing wrong with tasting them, but it is asking a lot of them to show with a fine meal, at this stage.

This is not Morgon, but 09 coudert tardive was still delicious last weekend. Tannin and alcohol there for sure, but the tannins are ripe and fine, and the slight alcoholic finish is much more of a problem with food (see above) than without. A great tribute to the wine though was how fresh *and* balanced it was the next day.
 
I didn't know why you were asking pab, but found the question pertinent, having just sprung for a 4-pack of Lenoir 2004s (not yet tasted).
 
originally posted by Cliff:
And I wondered why there was no response.

Very sorry, I thought Lenoir's Chinon estate (or boulevard Richard Lenoir).
About 04 from Richard Leroy, my cellar is empty and I can't help you.
I visited him in August and tasted the new 09-no-sulfur, the 10 in bottle and the 11 in cask. I'm still drinking 06/07/08/09
Best regards
 
originally posted by .sasha:

This is not Morgon, but 09 coudert tardive was still delicious last weekend. Tannin and alcohol there for sure, but the tannins are ripe and fine, and the slight alcoholic finish is much more of a problem with food (see above) than without. A great tribute to the wine though was how fresh *and* balanced it was the next day.

A magnum showed really well back in the Spring of this year.
 
I just bought the first vintage David brought in, the 04. Rouliers was lovely on release, though it seems tired now; Noels de Montbenault showed too much wood at first, then was beautiful, and then the wood took over again.
 
originally posted by Cliff:
I just bought the first vintage David brought in, the 04. Rouliers was lovely on release, though it seems tired now; Noels de Montbenault showed too much wood at first, then was beautiful, and then the wood took over again.

2004 was a middle of the road vintage in Anjou. You should drink it.
Since 2011, Richard got a new and big cellar. The new cuvee is the "Montbenault Sans soufre" (first vintage 2009) but I don't know if it will be imported in US. We will try before Christmas 2012 at the TGJP a blind test : regular Montbenault 2009 vs Sans soufre Montbenault 2009.
Years after years, Richard make the best dry chenin in Loire and years afters years all the best producers come to Rablay to understand how he's working.
Best regards
pierre-alain
 
Not enough sulfur, chuckle.

I think Leroy makes very impressive young Chenin (I do not have enough experience with old examples, and many bottles of those struck me as potentially damaged), and wish that I was the one importing the wines, but to call it the best dry Chenin along a very long river (and its tributaries), year in, year out, is hyperbolic.

I also wonder if seeking dryness in Chenin, as with Riesling, means handicapping oneself. The textures of the two grapes are very different, of course, but I haven't seen many people successfully navigate the trade-offs between ripeness, acidity, alcohol and sugar (or lack of) very well over a long period of time. Many of the wines often taste like they want to be slightly sweet.
 
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