Festivization

Florida Jim

Florida Jim

Florida Jim
Dinner with “the boys” in honor of a birthday (not mine):

2010 Dagueneau, Pouilly-Fumé Silex:
Sauvignon blanc doesn’t get much better, IMO; crystalline flavors, energy, presence and length. Stupid price but great wine.

2009 Kistler, Pinot Noir Kistler Vineyard:
Pinot noir concentrate from anywhere. Not bad wine just not worth wasting calories on.

2002 Thomas, Pinot Noir (magnum):
The antithesis of the preceding wine; translucent, weightless, with mostly savory flavors and aromas, silken, distinctive; a mag was not enough.

2005 Ridge, Cabernet Sauvignon Monte Bello:
Expecting a wall of American oak in one so young, was delighted to find a concentrated and intense mountain cabernet of quality and character.

2007 B.V. Cabernet Sauvignon Georges de Latour:
Lightweight cabernet that is acceptable but not special.

1986 B.V. Cabernet Sauvignon Georges de Latour:
Good providence, perfect cork; raisin juice. Sigh . . .

Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:


1986 B.V. Cabernet Sauvignon Georges de Latour:
Good providence, perfect cork; raisin juice. Sigh . . .
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That wine has always sucked, IMO. Filtered, centrifuged, what have you. Stripped and empty.

I never thought of it as overripe in a "raisin" sense, though, and think yours may have been cooked as you hint. Fortunately, no great loss.
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: Festivization1986 B.V. Cabernet Sauvignon Georges de Latour ... raisin juice
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Jim, The variableness between different bottles of this wine is a source of consternation. Everything from poor to excellent/outstanding.

Brings back memory of the Jordan Cabernet Sauvignon '76 which had similar variability.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

1986 B.V. Cabernet Sauvignon Georges de Latour:
Good providence, perfect cork; raisin juice. Sigh . . .
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The '80s were a complete lost decade for BV. They didn't get things turned around there until '94.
 
Old BV's from the 60's and 70's are a treat; but starting around 79 or 80 they went off the rails. I remember a long article about BV in the Underground Wine Journal that was as much about corporate malfeasance and mismanagement as it was about the wine itself.
 
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
Old BV's from the 60's and 70's are a treat; but starting around 79 or 80 they went off the rails. I remember a long article about BV in the Underground Wine Journal that was as much about corporate malfeasance and mismanagement as it was about the wine itself.
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79 was still very good.
 
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
Old BV's from the 60's and 70's are a treat; but starting around 79 or 80 they went off the rails. I remember a long article about BV in the Underground Wine Journal that was as much about corporate malfeasance and mismanagement as it was about the wine itself.
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If I recall the story correctly (and I very well may not), BV had been part of the Heublein portfolio but went downhill when Heublein was acquired by RJR Nabisco. It certainly wasn't alone in that regard, but was probably one of the more high profile casualties of that transaction.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
Old BV's from the 60's and 70's are a treat; but starting around 79 or 80 they went off the rails. I remember a long article about BV in the Underground Wine Journal that was as much about corporate malfeasance and mismanagement as it was about the wine itself.
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79 was still very good.
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I've had interesting bottles of 80, but not in a long time.
 
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