NWR: Election Statistics

originally posted by Arjun Mendiratta:
Unfortunately, Nate Silver isn't competing in the space of "statistical models."

Anyways, my own--completely uninformed--opinion is that Silver engages in far more analysis than is warranted by the quality of the raw data. But if you can get paid for mathematical masturbation, you might as well go for it...
political punditry favors a different sort of intellectual masturbation.
 
Anyone want to make predictions?

I'm thinking the Electoral College is 290 to 248, Obama wins. Obama gets Ohio and the rest of the Rust Belt, Colorado, and Nevada, but loses Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia (in a very close race).

In the Senate, Dems get wins in CT, MA, OH, MO, WI, VA, and IN and losses in NV, NE, AZ, ND, and MT. Dems are left in control of the Senate 53-47 (assuming King caucuses with the Dems).

In the House, Republicans maintain control but lose around 5-8 seats, specifically in Illinois and California, but offset with pickups in NC and NY.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Anyone want to make predictions?

I'm thinking the Electoral College is 290 to 248, Obama wins. Obama gets Ohio and the rest of the Rust Belt, Colorado, and Nevada, but loses Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia (in a very close race).

In the Senate, Dems get wins in CT, MA, OH, MO, WI, VA, and IN and losses in NV, NE, AZ, ND, and MT. Dems are left in control of the Senate 53-47 (assuming King caucuses with the Dems).

In the House, Republicans maintain control but lose around 5-8 seats, specifically in Illinois and California, but offset with pickups in NC and NY.

Yule, your scenarios are very much in line with mine; except i am hoping that BHO pulls out a win in VA; and i think a 10 seat loss for the R's in the house is possible (but i am going agains polling data in thinking that Kathy Bookvar in PA 8th and Sean Maloney in NY18 can win).
 
originally posted by Jason D:
That's actually a pretty weak article ...

This was my impression, but I didn't have the time to pick apart the particulars of why. Seemed more narrative than analytical.

originally posted by Yule Kim:
Anyone want to make predictions?

I'm thinking the Electoral College is 290 to 248, Obama wins. Obama gets Ohio and the rest of the Rust Belt, Colorado, and Nevada, but loses Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia (in a very close race).

In the Senate, Dems get wins in CT, MA, OH, MO, WI, VA, and IN and losses in NV, NE, AZ, ND, and MT. Dems are left in control of the Senate 53-47 (assuming King caucuses with the Dems).

In the House, Republicans maintain control but lose around 5-8 seats, specifically in Illinois and California, but offset with pickups in NC and NY.

All my info is filtered by the news outlets (including Silver); it'a hard to draw conclusions that are independent of theirs.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Anyone want to make predictions?

I'm thinking the Electoral College is 290 to 248, Obama wins. Obama gets Ohio and the rest of the Rust Belt, Colorado, and Nevada, but loses Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia (in a very close race).

In the Senate, Dems get wins in CT, MA, OH, MO, WI, VA, and IN and losses in NV, NE, AZ, ND, and MT. Dems are left in control of the Senate 53-47 (assuming King caucuses with the Dems).

In the House, Republicans maintain control but lose around 5-8 seats, specifically in Illinois and California, but offset with pickups in NC and NY.

My personal over/under line is 303 for Obama. If either FL or NC goes blue, take the over.

Mark the Greek
 
To me, Virginia is the swingiest of the swing states this year. I wouldn't be surprised if Virginia goes blue, but I'm an eternal pessimist.

I would be very surprised if FL or NC goes Blue.

I also think PA is going to be extremely close...closer than OH (my one off-the-wall prediction), but still an Obama win.

I think Tester-Rehberg in MT and Donnelly-Mourdock in IN are the two closest Senate races. Both are coin-flips, IMO.

A friend of mine is convinced Baldwin is toast in WI, but I think she pulls it out.

Carmona seems to have run a good campaign in AZ. Shame if he loses, but it augurs well for Dems in the Southwest in the foreseeable future (and I include Texas as part of the SW).
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:

I also think PA is going to be extremely close...closer than OH (my one off-the-wall prediction), but still an Obama win.

Jeez, I hope you're wrong. I've been surprised by the letters in the usually right-leaning Sunbury Daily Item, which have been at least 50% in favor of Obama and the Democrats this year. That paper endorsed Obama, too, which was out of character, but not a surprise given some earlier editorials. If Obama loses here, I think he'll lose by even more in Ohio.
 
originally posted by Yule Kim:
To me, Virginia is the swingiest of the swing states this year. I wouldn't be surprised if Virginia goes blue, but I'm an eternal pessimist.

I would be very surprised if FL or NC goes Blue.

I also think PA is going to be extremely close...closer than OH (my one off-the-wall prediction), but still an Obama win.

I think Tester-Rehberg in MT and Donnelly-Mourdock in IN are the two closest Senate races. Both are coin-flips, IMO.

A friend of mine is convinced Baldwin is toast in WI, but I think she pulls it out.

Carmona seems to have run a good campaign in AZ. Shame if he loses, but it augurs well for Dems in the Southwest in the foreseeable future (and I include Texas as part of the SW).

I love Tammy B and have supported her campaigns since her first state race in 1992, and this time was no exception, but I don't have high hopes that she can win this one. ITB (political business, not wine business) folks that I trust feel very good about Donnelly. Absent voter supression of extreme variety, i don't think PA should be as close as you fear.
 
Romney seemed to be gaining momentum in PA and both campaigns seemed to be investing a surprising amount of resources in the last week. This could be Romney tossing a hail mary, but it could also be internal polling suggesting PA is closer than the public polls indicate. I also think that lower unemployment rate in the state and the auto bailout are helping Obama in Ohio in ways that aren't helping him in PA. But, I am the eternal pessimist, so all of this might just be much ado about nothing.

I hope I am wrong, but, you always need at least one counter-intuitive prediction to keep things interesting.

And I think Warren beats Brown in MA.

I like Donnelly a lot. He ran a great campaign, but I just think IN demographics are going to keep this close. Luckily, the "inflicting his opinions" and "gift from God" comments helped his chances considerably. Seriously, the DSCC should send the Tea Party a thank you card this year.
 
Anyone have any insight about what the McCrory landslide will do to the presidential race?

Instinctively, I think that redneck Republicans maybe don't vote giving Obama a better chance. Unlikely, but you never know.
 
I have a sense that McCrory's lead won't deter Republicans from voting in NC. There's too much enthusiasm on their side this year.
 
Romney is campaigning in PA to try to win the popular vote. If he thought he could still win the electoral vote, he wouldn't be in PA. PA doesn't help him if he loses...well, any number of scenarios that Sam Wang, Nate Silver, or any number of analysts will explain in terms of the math. But PA alone, even if he won it (which, unless all the polls are wrong, he won't), wouldn't really help him much.
 
It would give him a cushion in the increasingly likely case that he loses in Ohio.

Winning the popular vote without an electoral college victory is a weak consolation prize for Romney, though a reasonable secondary objective for the party.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
It would give him a cushion in the increasingly likely case that he loses in Ohio.

Winning the popular vote without an electoral college victory is a weak consolation prize for Romney, though a reasonable secondary objective for the party.

Unless Romney is looking 4 years down the road.
 
If he loses this cycle, it's hard to see how he could be nominated again, given the elasticity of his positions during this campaign. Also, fwiw, his wife has said he won't.
 
originally posted by kirk wallace:
I love Tammy B and have supported her campaigns since her first state race in 1992, and this time was no exception, but I don't have high hopes that she can win this one. ITB (political business, not wine business) folks that I trust feel very good about Donnelly. Absent voter supression of extreme variety, i don't think PA should be as close as you fear.

I would so love to be wrong about Tammy, and early reports make it seem possible that I am!!
 
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