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Nary an h'election mention.

Drank: 94 Mt. Olivet, 97 Couterier Cairanne d'Estevenas, 99 Thevenet Emilian Gillet. Rhones good, Thevenet too old.
 
My wife elected me to do the laundry - does that count?
Drank a lot of wine this week, most of it good, not much of it memorable.
Although, the Tissot Arbois had a lot of promise.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
My wife elected me to do the laundry - does that count?
Drank a lot of wine this week, most of it good, not much of it memorable.
Although, the Tissot Arbois had a lot of promise.
Best, Jim
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I'm very happy with the '10s from Tissot.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
My wife elected me to do the laundry - does that count?
Drank a lot of wine this week, most of it good, not much of it memorable.
Although, the Tissot Arbois had a lot of promise.
Best, Jim
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I'm very happy with the '10s from Tissot.
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Wood not bothering you as it usually does?
 
09 Tissot Trousseau Singulier is yucky. I could not have guessed it was Trousseau. It might even have been purple, but I'm colorblind.
 
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by .sasha:
Loved 97 d'estevenas but mine are long gone.
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My favorite Cairanne...
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+2

But did it have as much Syrah as it does now, back then? I could be mistaken but I thought it was 100% grenache at some point.
 
My knowledge doesn't go that far.

Ancient vine Grenache is the bomb. Janasse Chaupin, d'Estevenas, Cadinnieres...
 
originally posted by mlawton:
09 Tissot Trousseau Singulier is yucky. I could not have guessed it was Trousseau. It might even have been purple, but I'm colorblind.
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Yeah I agree with not guessing trousseau and it is, indeed, "yucky."
 
I love Rabasse-Charavin's normal Cairanne. The d'Estevenas has always seemed a bit de trop for me. Maybe it has changed to more Syrah. I wasn't aware of it back in 97. The first vintage I had, I think, was the 04. They do make a great regular Cairanne, though.

Janasse's wines are a bit too much of the big ripe fruit persuasion for me, though they are made that way because that's the way the winemaker likes it, and not to follow a fad. Chaupoin and D'Estevenas are vineyards and not variety designations. Alary also makes a Font d'Estevenas and it has its share of Syrah. I don't know if anyone else shares Chaupoin. I know nothing about Cadinnieres.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I love Rabasse-Charavin's normal Cairanne. The d'Estevenas has always seemed a bit de trop for me. Maybe it has changed to more Syrah. I wasn't aware of it back in 97. The first vintage I had, I think, was the 04. They do make a great regular Cairanne, though.
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We may in fact be looking at two disjoint time periods. I lost touch around 2001, as the fellow who used to import them in my area had disappeared. Back then d'Estevenas was a very elegant extension to the basic Cairanne, with more intensity and sap.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I love Rabasse-Charavin's normal Cairanne. The d'Estevenas has always seemed a bit de trop for me. Maybe it has changed to more Syrah. I wasn't aware of it back in 97. The first vintage I had, I think, was the 04. They do make a great regular Cairanne, though.

Janasse's wines are a bit too much of the big ripe fruit persuasion for me, though they are made that way because that's the way the winemaker likes it, and not to follow a fad. Chaupoin and D'Estevenas are vineyards and not variety designations. Alary also makes a Font d'Estevenas and it has its share of Syrah. I don't know if anyone else shares Chaupoin. I know nothing about Cadinnieres.
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You find the Janasse Chaupin big ripe fruited?
 
When I have tasted them, all the Janasses show the house style, which to my taste is big, ripe fruit. But this makes me sound as if I have more experience with them than I do. Back in the 90s, I could buy the Chaupoin regularly, and I very much liked their 90 and 95. Starting with maybe 98, maybe 00, they started getting more expensive and the named cuvees went north of my tolerance in the aughts. So I haven't had any since the 07 and before that only some here and there. With those provisos in mind, the short answer to your question is "yes."
 
I checked a little on Rabasse-Charavin. The Font d'Estevenas is 80% Grenache and 20% Syrah, the same percentages as the normal cuvee. And I don't expect that's changed that much. And the winemaking remains traditional. In Cairanne, and that's the only place I taste the stuff, since it doesn't show up here much, they still are releasing fairly old vintages (they may be up to 04 or 05 and for years, all I saw was the 03). Since I think the 03 and 04 are all I have ever tasted, I wouldn't speculate on changes in style based on my evidence. Their regular cuvee is such a favorite of mine, in fact, that at this point, I think I'll change my story to say, so far, with my little experience, I haven't liked the d'Estevenas that much, but I don't think my experience counts for much. I think I'll have to visit the domaine and find out more.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I checked a little on Rabasse-Charavin. The Font d'Estevenas is 80% Grenache and 20% Syrah, the same percentages as the normal cuvee. And I don't expect that's changed that much. And the winemaking remains traditional. In Cairanne, and that's the only place I taste the stuff, since it doesn't show up here much, they still are releasing fairly old vintages (they may be up to 04 or 05 and for years, all I saw was the 03). Since I think the 03 and 04 are all I have ever tasted, I wouldn't speculate on changes in style based on my evidence. Their regular cuvee is such a favorite of mine, in fact, that at this point, I think I'll change my story to say, so far, with my little experience, I haven't liked the d'Estevenas that much, but I don't think my experience counts for much. I think I'll have to visit the domaine and find out more.
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I dropped by without prior notice in the summer of 2004, because I just happened to be in the neighbourhood. The place was open, but not a soul in sight. Gave myself a tour but decided against tasting anything without permission.
 
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