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originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Also, Diner is "generic" but Marlow & Sons is "niche"?

I feel like the words he is using do not mean what they are supposed to mean.
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I think that you are susceptible to group think, like most weak minded lit majors.
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I also have the palsy.

What do you mean by "group think," in this particular instance?

And really, what makes Marlow & Sons a "niche" restaurant? Adirondack lodge decor?
 
The great unspoken fact of Brooklyn life is that nobody, at least nobody I have ever met, moved there because they liked it better than Manhattan. (“It’s not true!” I can hear them saying. “I have no interest in living in Manhattan ”) In fact, though, they live there because it’s the best place they can afford.
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A rich guy on eBob once told me that that was why I drank Chinon.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Also, Diner is "generic" but Marlow & Sons is "niche"?

I feel like the words he is using do not mean what they are supposed to mean.
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I think that you are susceptible to group think, like most weak minded lit majors.
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I also have the palsy.

What do you mean by "group think," in this particular instance?

And really, what makes Marlow & Sons a "niche" restaurant? Adirondack lodge decor?
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Yes.

Hipster Champagne.

I'm not here to defend those choice of words and he does say he likes Marlow and Sons in the piece.

Bises.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
The great unspoken fact of Brooklyn life is that nobody, at least nobody I have ever met, moved there because they liked it better than Manhattan. (“It’s not true!” I can hear them saying. “I have no interest in living in Manhattan ”) In fact, though, they live there because it’s the best place they can afford.
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A rich guy on eBob once told me that that was why I drank Chinon.
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You'd drink La Tache every day if you could afford it.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by mlawton:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Anthony's Pier 4!

Who had the least idea?
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Now say I was in that part of town. And say I was hungry and thirsty. I think I might find myself at Menton or if I was truly thirsty, maybe in Chinatown at one of the places with the boundless lists and retail markups.
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Thus continuing to preserve '96 Le Mont sec on the list!
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wonder if they would do take out.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Also, Diner is "generic" but Marlow & Sons is "niche"?

I feel like the words he is using do not mean what they are supposed to mean.
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Maybe he has a background in the humanities?

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
I think the service is a bigger problem then the actual cuisine, in Brooklyn's hyped restaurants.

But then, that's true of Manhattan, as well, as a few recent, catastrophic visits to well-regarded downtown spots have proved.
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Well, you're spoiled after living in a country that pays servers a living wage. For my part, the only place in the US where I find an acceptably high standard of service is in SF, at least in the places where I've eaten.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
I think the service is a bigger problem then the actual cuisine, in Brooklyn's hyped restaurants.

But then, that's true of Manhattan, as well, as a few recent, catastrophic visits to well-regarded downtown spots have proved.
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Well, you're spoiled after living in a country that pays servers a living wage. For my part, the only place in the US where I find an acceptably high standard of service is in SF, at least in the places where I've eaten.

Mark Lipton
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Good points.

And I am mystified that the word "then" in my first sentence remained with an "e"--I corrected it when I added the "have" before "proved."

Strange....
 
I think there is some truth to the Brooklyn piece. I do agree with him on Vinegar Hill as one of the best. I love Brooklyn Fare and Blanca but those are extremely expensive one offs so not really indicative of all of Brooklyn. Some of the same written in the article can be said for Manhattan. In my opinion the most exciting restaurant city in the U.S. right now is San Francisco (although they could improve their winelists but corkage is reasonable and welcome). I have eaten four times at State Bird Provisions in the last two weeks - the most exciting restaurant of the year for me in 2012 (last year it was the original ISA in Brooklyn)!
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
Anthony's Pier 4!

Who had the least idea?
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We went there over 20 years ago because one of our wine geek friends extolled the superb contents of their wine cellar. The old man himself helped us order wine from the list. In those days not only was the list deep in excellent Burgundies but the prices were retail from when the wines were released. Hey lobster tastes pretty good with red Burgundy.
 
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