Happy Thanksgiving

[Jay Miller]

originally posted by Thor:
Jay, I'd be more worried about you than the very amenable Arnold.

And I haven't done it all these years so it should be fine.

They're actually all very nice people, but it's still a little nerve wracking.

 

[Thor]

Unless there's blood sausage. ;-)

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Recipe?

Something along these lines.

Cool project, but not for tomorrow. Merci.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Jay Miller:

originally posted by Thor:
Jay, I'd be more worried about you than the very amenable Arnold.

And I haven't done it all these years so it should be fine.

They're actually all very nice people, but it's still a little nerve wracking.

Well, I've only met Arnold once, but I think the relatives should be on warning that they are expendable. Given the crowd he puts up with cheerfully, anyone who can't get along with him is automatically classing him or herself as ornery beyond the pale.

 

[Chris Coad]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Jay Miller:

originally posted by Thor:
Jay, I'd be more worried about you than the very amenable Arnold.

And I haven't done it all these years so it should be fine.

They're actually all very nice people, but it's still a little nerve wracking.

Well, I've only met Arnold once, but I think the relatives should be on warning that they are expendable. Given the crowd he puts up with cheerfully, anyone who can't get along with him is automatically classing him or herself as ornery beyond the pale.

This is exactly right. Arnold is a paragon of easygoing patience.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

A paragon!
A paragon!
That most ingenious paragon!
A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
A paragon!

 

[Yixin]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Yixin:
Cooking, like sex, is best done slow then fast.

I've noticed that for you almost everything is like sex.

Including sex itself.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

All human activity fulfils the objectives, overt or sublimated, of the libido. It's the doing of it slowly that is the true conquest of civilization.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
All human activity fulfils the objectives, overt or sublimated, of the libido. It's the doing of it slowly that is the true conquest of civilization.

When you get to the part in Freud about the repetition compulsion, get back to me.

 

[Brad Kane]

A nice find by Hardy Wallace. It's what I envision a Disorderly Thanksgiving to be. Harvard Sailing Team- Hipster Thanksgiving.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
All human activity fulfils the objectives, overt or sublimated, of the libido. It's the doing of it slowly that is the true conquest of civilization.

When you get to the part in Freud about the repetition compulsion, get back to me.

Is that the part where we are compelled to repeat childhood traumas as farce?

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
All human activity fulfils the objectives, overt or sublimated, of the libido. It's the doing of it slowly that is the true conquest of civilization.

When you get to the part in Freud about the repetition compulsion, get back to me.

Is that the part where we are compelled to repeat childhood traumas as farce?

Sort of, I guess. It started with Freud trying to explain why shell shocked WWI soldiers would relive horrifying wartime moments, which contradicted the ostensible pleasure principle drive of our id, which should, according to the original theory, have quite effectively repressed those memories.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

Perhaps the pleasure principle is still being served by this kind of imprint if it makes repetition of harm's way less likely.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

An attempt to comprehend the incomprehensible.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

Never give up.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Perhaps the pleasure principle is still being served by this kind of imprint if it makes repetition of harm's way less likely.

His theory was that repetition normalized the horrific and persuaded us that we could handle it. What happened to the soldiers was the mind using a mechanism in response to trauma that was developed for regular bad events. Thus children play at things they don't want to happen so they can show themselves it will come out OK.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

This last bit reminds me of Bruno Bettelheim's wonderful The Uses of Enchantment, about how fairy tales shouldn't be sanitized because the horrific elements play an important developmental role.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
...Repetition normalized the horrific

Like sex with Yixin, you mean?

 

[Jay Miller]

The Willi Schaefer GD Spatlese #5 is s a bit bigger than the #10, more green apple on the palate, but equally thrilling. Wish I drank it from better glasses.