2010 Brun Fleurie

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Yixin

Yixin
Putting the finishing touches to (hopefully) the most depressing sales catalogue I'll ever have to write, I decided to open our last bottle of this.

Wow.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
dude, 2010 is so last year.
Any 11s you've liked so far?
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All I have tried have been very nice, bought many. Brun (l'Ancien), Coudert (Fleurie and Tardive), Lapierre, Vissoux (who top to bottom is amazing) and Bouland (thick and sappy right now)

I guess I should mention I do sell Bouland and Vissoux though this year maybe only to myself
 
from what I hear about 11 vissoux, disclaimers won't be necessary
 
The Traditionelle I bought from wrrntl a couple of months ago was impressive, though it took a couple of days after opening to get there. Would like to try Brun's l'Ancien in this vintage.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
dude, 2010 is so last year.
Any 11s you've liked so far?
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Why, I could claim that you're the one stuck in the past - 2012 Nouveau! With the crus it's sensible to give them a bit of time to settle down, especially when one ships halfway round the world.

2011? Chamonard. Brun Beaujolais Blanc. Doubtless there will be more.
 
Why, I could claim that you're the one stuck in the past - 2012 Nouveau!
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This may shock SFJoe, but I finally had a Nouveau that I was able to keep down - 2012 Dupeuble . Lovely.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Why, I could claim that you're the one stuck in the past - 2012 Nouveau!
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This may shock SFJoe, but I finally had a Nouveau that I was able to keep down - 2012 Dupeuble . Lovely.
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2012 foillard nouveau at lunch today at Olympic Provisions NW was just fine. Not as good as the 2010 Corcellette that followed it, but still lovely.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Why, I could claim that you're the one stuck in the past - 2012 Nouveau!
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This may shock SFJoe, but I finally had a Nouveau that I was able to keep down - 2012 Dupeuble . Lovely.
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If what I've heard about that wine in past vintages is accurate, you might want to reconsider spitting.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
2010 Chamonard Morgon the other day was just OK.
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2010 Chamonard the other day was drinking like a potentialy brilliant wine 10-15 years from now. Drink Lapierre or Breton if you want to drink 10s. Or drink 1995, 1998 or 2003 Chamonard.
Drinking Chamonard young is a total waste. Always. IMO
 
Good to know your opinion, though it didn't seem structured to make old bones. Though I can see the candied element of the sweetness eventually giving way to something more interesting.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Good to know your opinion, though it didn't seem structured to make old bones. Though I can see the candied element of the sweetness eventually giving way to something more interesting.
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OK, now I am intrigued. Have to taste this thing, despite wasting a bottle in the process, by definition.
Perhaps, this being 2010, you are experiencing very fine (in addition to obviously ripe) tannins?
 
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Good to know your opinion, though it didn't seem structured to make old bones. Though I can see the candied element of the sweetness eventually giving way to something more interesting.
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OK, now I am intrigued. Have to taste this thing, despite wasting a bottle in the process, by definition.
Perhaps, this being 2010, you are experiencing very fine (in addition to obviously ripe) tannins?
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Structure and EQ seemed adequate, but the former did not particularly suggest longevity, perhaps because of the fine-ness of tannins you mention. Sacrificing a young bottle like this is only justifiable as a basis for buying decisions. It was the candied sweetness that put me off. Even though it went, for the most part, away with food, my crystal ball, at least, wasn't impressed enough with the rest to want to buy seconds. Leaves more for those with different balls.
 
It was the candied sweetness that put me off.
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Yeah, but you also felt that way about a recent CRB Gamay, was it 2011? :-)

No, I am not the politburo.
 
Boy, talk of elephant's memory. Checked my notes and, yes, 2011, but not candied, found the fruit jammy, as in overripe (very odd, given the 12.0%), and overwhelmed by the acidity. Also didn't feel too inspired to buy more.

On a different track, a recent 2006 Pierre Morey Monthelie was lovely, and a 2007 Guy Roulot Monthelie less so.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
though it didn't seem structured to make old bones.
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I had the same feeling when I first tasted Chamonard in 1983. I was raised in Bordeaux and had in mind that wine needed a "structure" to age. I have drank my share of Chamonard, Rayas, Overnoy or Rousseau since. Plenty of loosy wines that turned into gems 10 years or more later. And tons of structured wines that turned into mess without hope (Cambie CdP or Accad pinots come to mind).

1985 Chauvet Frères Beaujolais VIllages has always been a loose wine. 11.5% Alc no tanin to speak of, low acidity, fruit forward from the first day. Last bottle I had was amazingly young and nice.

All my encounters with 2010 Morgon Chamonard were definitely closer to SFJoe's description early this year : http://winedisorder.com/comment/56/5961/
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Yixin:
If you want young Chamonard, drink the Fleurie.
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I hear the Cuvée du Chat is a good one for that, ever tried it?
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Glou glou wine. Nothing to compare with the morgon.

I second Yixin about the Fleurie. Always very approachable young.
 
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