Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
From elsewhere, written in 2005:
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Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
originally posted by Robert Dentice:
Mannie provided a lot of historical context and detailed specific winemaker information. He noted that Gentaz was the only one that used Burgundy sized barrels (although they were very old)
Verset kept the wines in burgundy barrels until he transferred them to his two large foudres, which I think may have been after malo finished.
Add on edit: thinking more about it, it must have been after he'd bottled the previous year's wines from the foudres -- which was one before the second summer, one after.
p.s. Sad to say but there were some heavy collectors at the dinner and I expect these wines to trade in the $1,000 - $2,000 range very soon. Gentaz is already there.
Let me know when they get to $10-20K. Until then, qu'ils boivent des lalas.
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
From elsewhere, written in 2005:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
Larry and I appreciate the fabulous St-Josephs that Joseph Panel/Domaine de Cheffieux made in the 1980s and beginning of the 1990s, and it is [Philippe] Faury, in fact, who is now the successor to those vines.
Ah, Larry -- a great guy. RIP, died too young.
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
I'll venture you never had a Panel/Domaine des Cheffieux.originally posted by VLM:
Minus some Chave and Trollat, those are all amongst the best Northern Rhone wines I've ever had.
Negative. Not to my knowledge.
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
From elsewhere, written in 2005:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
Larry and I appreciate the fabulous St-Josephs that Joseph Panel/Domaine de Cheffieux made in the 1980s and beginning of the 1990s, and it is [Philippe] Faury, in fact, who is now the successor to those vines.
Ah, Larry -- a great guy. RIP, died too young.
Does that explain why I like the Faury VV?
Larry?
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Robert Dentice:
Mannie provided a lot of historical context and detailed specific winemaker information. He noted that Gentaz was the only one that used Burgundy sized barrels (although they were very old)
Verset kept the wines in burgundy barrels until he transferred them to his two large foudres.
p.s. Sad to say but there were some heavy collectors at the dinner and I expect these wines to trade in the $1,000 - $2,000 range very soon. Gentaz is already there.
Let me know when they get to $10-20K. Until then, qu'ils boivent des lalas.
Honestly, at $500+, I might be a seller of Verset. At $1000, I definitely am.
Claude Kolm
Claude Kolm
Faury does a very good job, but it's not the same as Panel who was closer to Verset or Gentaz. In fact, Kermit Lynch once told me that he was afraid to take clients to Panel because the facilities were (to liberally translate from the French term Kermit used) so primitive.originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
From elsewhere, written in 2005:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
Larry and I appreciate the fabulous St-Josephs that Joseph Panel/Domaine de Cheffieux made in the 1980s and beginning of the 1990s, and it is [Philippe] Faury, in fact, who is now the successor to those vines.
Ah, Larry -- a great guy. RIP, died too young.
Does that explain why I like the Faury VV?
Larry?
I've forgotten Larry's last name. He lived up in Humboldt County, was on WLDG and I think Wine Therapy, came down for a few great offlines, including one very memorable one with Steve Edmunds on a rainy night at Lalime's; a heavy contributor on Wine Therapy was supposed to join us, but "forgot" -- his loss on that night.
Mark Davis
Mark Davis
awesome lineup.
I opened an '89 Verset Yesterday and it was quite closed and took some time to start to come around. A '97 Verset showed better balance at the same event.
Also had Trollat (1979) - twice now this year - and liked it quite a bit.
The '83 Gentaz was corked!
A new wine to me - Raymond Roure (1974) was also an interesting drink.
-mark
I opened an '89 Verset Yesterday and it was quite closed and took some time to start to come around. A '97 Verset showed better balance at the same event.
Also had Trollat (1979) - twice now this year - and liked it quite a bit.
The '83 Gentaz was corked!
A new wine to me - Raymond Roure (1974) was also an interesting drink.
-mark