2009 Foillard, Morgon

originally posted by slaton:
This is the wine that made me a 2009 hater, back when it was released. I found the one bottle I opened candied and fairly gross.

Reminds me of the hand-wringing over Lapierre MMVII, which similarly divided Disorderlies.
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I had the '09 4 or so times within a year of its release and loved it each time. Yup, controversial.
 
originally posted by Bill Bounds:
I first had this wine on 12/05/10 and instantly tasted candied fruit which reminded me of a 2003 Beaujolais tasting. In that tasting only the 2003 Foillard did not have the candied fruit flavor. In a rare post I wrote the observation on WI.
Shortly after Jim came through and we tasted the wine with food together. Jim couldn't agree with the comment; I refused to drink the wine that night after the first taste. We tried it again last night and agreed on the candied fruit.

The wine came from CSW and was shipped to me in late November 2010; it has been in a wine cellar ever since. All the 7 bottles that I have had since had the same characteristic.
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My thinking is that this is the VA acting up. Foillard is definitely prone to it and 2009 seemed to have it, IME.

This is not a wine I buy and cellar anymore, but drink from time to time.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Guilhaume gerard:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Candied?

It doesn't taste like 08 or 10 Foillard
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Probably because he didn't need to chaptalize in 09?
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Mean.
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Perhaps uninformed. The 2010 is very good, in any event, and I'm hoping to reserve some this week.

Seems early for the 09s. Slaton, I might be able to help you with your mags, if you want to get in touch.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Bill Bounds:
I first had this wine on 12/05/10 and instantly tasted candied fruit which reminded me of a 2003 Beaujolais tasting. In that tasting only the 2003 Foillard did not have the candied fruit flavor. In a rare post I wrote the observation on WI.
Shortly after Jim came through and we tasted the wine with food together. Jim couldn't agree with the comment; I refused to drink the wine that night after the first taste. We tried it again last night and agreed on the candied fruit.

The wine came from CSW and was shipped to me in late November 2010; it has been in a wine cellar ever since. All the 7 bottles that I have had since had the same characteristic.
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My thinking is that this is the VA acting up. Foillard is definitely prone to it and 2009 seemed to have it, IME.

This is not a wine I buy and cellar anymore, but drink from time to time.
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VA? Interesting. That's definitely not something that I would associate with Foillard wines and I don't remember VA bothering me in any of his bottles.
 
No noticeable VA.
Lots of noticeable yeast tangents and a palate of something I'd prefer to predictions.
Really folks, what I had is not debatable - are there other releases that show differently?
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:

Really folks, what I had is not debatable - are there other releases that show differently?
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I don't think anyone doubts what you experienced, Jim, but a bunch of people have already mentioned that they've had vastly different experiences with the wine on numerous occasions, so what are you asking?
 
Jim -- Wines such as Foillard's are extremely sensitive to temperature during storage. You've not told us whether you can be sure (based on where it was purchased and then where it was stored prior to opening) that you can be sure that there was not a storage problem with the bottle you are commenting on.
 
I drank one of these recently, when Matt was in town. Super ripe aromas, almost meaty, kirsch like Grenache smells. Big tannins. Very 2009.

So, like what Slaton said.

FWIW I liked the Courcelette 2009 better, it seemed a bit more focused and not as ripe.
 
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