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Ganevat 2010s
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Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
I have not tasted the 2010 whites from Ganevat, as they are not yet available in the US, but you are not the first to express concern about them. I understand from a source I generally trust that the wines led to some questions last year when tasted from barrel. Some of the ouille whites were apparently showing more oxidation than one would expect. Perhaps a tiny bit of sulphur is not always such a bad thing? I was also told that at least one of the 2011 reds was showing an unpleasant amount of VA. Just the rumors I have heard...
Arno Tronche
Arnaud Tronche
Interesting.... I heard and read the opposite and that 2010 was much more balanced and classic than 2009 for Ganevat.
Olif Blog Ganevat.
Joe, maybe a bad lot? Let us know if you try some again...
Olif Blog Ganevat.
Joe, maybe a bad lot? Let us know if you try some again...
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
Did you taste them during the early stages of their elevage or the later stages? Just curious.
But he assembles both barrels before he bottles each cuvee, yes?originally posted by Yixin:
Both. Not every barrel is great, but that's usually the case anyway.
Mark Davis
Mark Davis
Very very curious about these wines myself...I don't think we'll see them from Kermit until Spring, right?
I recently had two of the '10 reds: pinot and poulsard...I was surprised that I preferred the Pinot..the acidity was more in line with what I am looking for, but they are also younger vines.
I recently had two of the '10 reds: pinot and poulsard...I was surprised that I preferred the Pinot..the acidity was more in line with what I am looking for, but they are also younger vines.
One CMB since was much better. From the same source. Tasted with the same wine professionals.originally posted by SFJoe:
Ganevat 2010sOpened a couple of Ganevat 2010s last night (savagnin Chalasses Marnes Bleus, chard Chamois du Paradis) and was rather disappointed. Lacking in zip, intensity, interest.
Anyone else tried the wines? Was it just too late in the evening?
'11 JV vg tonight.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by SFJoe:
One CMB since was much better. From the same source. Tasted with the same wine professionals.originally posted by SFJoe:
Ganevat 2010sOpened a couple of Ganevat 2010s last night (savagnin Chalasses Marnes Bleus, chard Chamois du Paradis) and was rather disappointed. Lacking in zip, intensity, interest.
Anyone else tried the wines? Was it just too late in the evening?
'11 JV vg tonight.
Oh thank god. My faith was getting shaken.
My faith is still shaken, but not destroyed.originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by SFJoe:
One CMB since was much better. From the same source. Tasted with the same wine professionals.originally posted by SFJoe:
Ganevat 2010sOpened a couple of Ganevat 2010s last night (savagnin Chalasses Marnes Bleus, chard Chamois du Paradis) and was rather disappointed. Lacking in zip, intensity, interest.
Anyone else tried the wines? Was it just too late in the evening?
'11 JV vg tonight.
Oh thank god. My faith was getting shaken.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
Tasted with the same wine professionals.
i trust that you made them use the players' entrance.
fb.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by SFJoe:
My faith is still shaken, but not destroyed.originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by SFJoe:
One CMB since was much better. From the same source. Tasted with the same wine professionals.originally posted by SFJoe:
Ganevat 2010sOpened a couple of Ganevat 2010s last night (savagnin Chalasses Marnes Bleus, chard Chamois du Paradis) and was rather disappointed. Lacking in zip, intensity, interest.
Anyone else tried the wines? Was it just too late in the evening?
'11 JV vg tonight.
Oh thank god. My faith was getting shaken.
Your report drove me to take refuge last night in 2011 Schaefer domprobst kab #16. It is comforting to to touch the still center of the turning world every now and then.
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originally posted by kirk wallace:
Your report drove me to take refuge last night in 2011 Schaefer domprobst kab #16. It is comforting to to touch the still center of the turning world every now and then.
can you please point me to your grey market source for this one?
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
Your report drove me to take refuge last night in 2011 Schaefer domprobst kab #16. It is comforting to to touch the still center of the turning world every now and then.
can you please point me to your grey market source for this one?
Crush isn't very grey; i am pretty sure that is where that came from.
U
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originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
Your report drove me to take refuge last night in 2011 Schaefer domprobst kab #16. It is comforting to to touch the still center of the turning world every now and then.
can you please point me to your grey market source for this one?
Crush isn't very grey; i am pretty sure that is where that came from.
oh - so you had it from half bottle, which Crush kindly brought in under cork, to make sure we can still touch that still center :-)
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
No. Full bottle. Screw cap.originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
Your report drove me to take refuge last night in 2011 Schaefer domprobst kab #16. It is comforting to to touch the still center of the turning world every now and then.
can you please point me to your grey market source for this one?
Crush isn't very grey; i am pretty sure that is where that came from.
oh - so you had it from half bottle, which Crush kindly brought in under cork, to make sure we can still touch that still center :-)
U
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originally posted by kirk wallace:
No. Full bottle. Screw cap.originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
Your report drove me to take refuge last night in 2011 Schaefer domprobst kab #16. It is comforting to to touch the still center of the turning world every now and then.
can you please point me to your grey market source for this one?
Crush isn't very grey; i am pretty sure that is where that came from.
oh - so you had it from half bottle, which Crush kindly brought in under cork, to make sure we can still touch that still center :-)
I sense a blind tasting is upon us! (if one of them is corked, it will be particularly amusing)
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
Fine plan. Be very interesting to compare the #3 and the #16.
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originally posted by kirk wallace:
Fine plan. Be very interesting to compare the #3 and the #16.
not to mention 16 subjected to different entrapment methodologies
( I made the mistake with the 2007 vintage of assuming that the AP## were unique to closure, e.g. #7 for cork and #16 for SC for GD Kab, only to be corrected by a friend in a country to be named later, who pointed out that #16 under cork was the house wine )