TN: Maureen comes to town and there's not a Burgundy to be had. Riesling and Morgon with Szechuan.

[Claude Kolm]

originally posted by Rahsaan:

originally posted by Claude Kolm:
I was going to say hurrah!, someone finally has begun importing Bergdolt Sankt Lamprecht, and then I got to the last sentence of your note on the wine. The Weissburgunders need 7-8 years of age and then they challenge and can resemble aged Chablis.

Yes, my in-laws brought a few over for me. I liked the remains of the bottle later that night at home and thought there was some nice elegance to the structure (terroir?) although it was a touch hot (14%) and was not going to win awards for being flashy, which was a minus at that dinner.

Otherwise, I mostly agree with Brad although felt no need to bestow WOTN on either the Donnhoff or the Prum as they both had a lot of pleasure to give me.

Hopefully, they brought some of Bergdolt's Rieslings and Spätburgunders, too -- both topnotch, and in fact, Bergdolt, although less famous, is up there with all the other big Spätburgunder names, IMO, which is saying something.

Looking at my notes on Bergdolt's 2011 Weissburgunders, I tasted five at the estate last September, and the GG clearly was the one that I liked the least -- it was overdone compared to the Kabinett trockens and "S" trockens that I had there. Overdoing GGs is less common than it used to be, but it still remains a somewhat easy trap to fall into in a ripe, moderate acid vintage such as 2011. The 2011 St. Lamprecht "S" Weissburgunder trocken is a genuinely thrilling wine.

I don't recall ever having Bergdolt's Sekt, but Bill Hooper speaks very highly of them.

 

[Rahsaan]

originally posted by Claude Kolm:

Hopefully, they brought some of Bergdolt's Rieslings and Spätburgunders, too -- both topnotch, and in fact, Bergdolt, although less famous, is up there with all the other big Spätburgunder names, IMO, which is saying something.

Looking at my notes on Bergdolt's 2011 Weissburgunders, I tasted five at the estate last September, and the GG clearly was the one that I liked the least -- it was overdone...

A couple bottles of the above weissburgunder and a couple bottles of the 2010 Duttweiler Kalkberg GG spatburgunder.

Interesting info about the GG being overdone. Given limitations on how much I could expect my in-laws to carry, I chose it to see what Bergdolt could do with their 'best' weissburgunder, but alas we know this is not always the best strategy.

 

[Claude Kolm]

The 2010 Kalkberg Sptb. GG is a killer. ("Kalkberg," of course, telling you all you need to know about where it came from.) 1/3 stems in this wine. Oak and toast stand out initially in the nose, so I'd give the wine maybe 5-8 years in the cellar before opening, but the mouth is pure with crystalline red and dark fruits and overall it is balanced, elegant, long, nervy, and precise. What more could you ask for?

 

[Rahsaan]

Thanks. At least I have something to look forward to! Sounds good.

Of course I'll have to open a bottle soon just to satisfy my curiosity, but with the friendly domaine prices it is very attractive (from the perspective of US prices) to buy more and stock them in Germany.

 

[maureen]

Sorry to be so late in posting - just back in front of my computer after a very busy past few days.

Brad, thanks for organizing and being so generous and sorry about the glass! Rahsaan and Chris (ok, he doesn't read this board) - thanks to you too. I liked the Breton more than the rest of you - but in general I'm just not interested in drinking gamay, I confess.

and what is with New Yorkers and chinese food with wine? I had to endure it a second night on Friday! The food was better friday night - but the company and the wine superior thursday (somehow, I don't think a disorderly would bring an awful, oaky 2005 Williams Selyem pinot or a fat oily z-h gew. hengst (recent vintage but don't remember which).

Soup dumplings two nights in a row - who'd have thunk it?

 

[Mark Davis]

Maureen: where did you eat Friday night, out of curiosity?

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by maureen:
and what is with New Yorkers and chinese food with wine?

They let us do BYO.

 

[Howard Cooper]

originally posted by Tom Glasgow:
No Burgundy? Or just none befitting a Queen?

That is ok. Maureen is just as happy with some Champagne, a white Burg or two and a couple of overoaked Cabs.

 

[maureen]

originally posted by Mark Davis:
Maureen: where did you eat Friday night, out of curiosity?

Shainghai joe's in chinatown.

 

[Chris Coad]

originally posted by maureen:
Sorry to be so late in posting - just back in front of my computer after a very busy past few days.

Brad, thanks for organizing and being so generous and sorry about the glass! Rahsaan and Chris (ok, he doesn't read this board) - thanks to you too. I liked the Breton more than the rest of you - but in general I'm just not interested in drinking gamay, I confess.

and what is with New Yorkers and chinese food with wine? I had to endure it a second night on Friday! The food was better friday night - but the company and the wine superior thursday (somehow, I don't think a disorderly would bring an awful, oaky 2005 Williams Selyem pinot or a fat oily z-h gew. hengst (recent vintage but don't remember which).

Soup dumplings two nights in a row - who'd have thunk it?

Me? I have no time for such frivolity!

Sorry to miss you, I was in Honolulu in the House of Crazy, playing nursemaid.

 

[Chris Coad]

originally posted by Brad Kane:

originally posted by MLipton:

originally posted by Jay Miller:

originally posted by Yixin:

originally posted by Brad Kane:
Funny, you had an infamous dinner in NYC, too.

Which one?

I'm guessing the one at Jeff Connell's place though there the issue wasn't a lack of good wine but perhaps an overabundance...

Ah, not Lucid Jeebusing, then?

Mark Lipton

No, that was it. Coad discretely left out some details.

Discretion is my middle name, you know. Sometimes hints are more efficient.