09 Chamonard, Foillard, and Coudert Tardive

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Rahsaan

Rahsaan
In the past I have loved all three of these for different reasons but this weekend the Coudert far outshone the others.

Previous bottles of 09 Chamonard Morgon have showed lovely flavors but firm (and at times overpowering) structure. This weekend’s Chamonard was softer and friendlier than ever, but it also tilted closer to roasted high-octane flavors, bringing out the 09 flaws. Same story with 09 Foillard Côte du Py. I’ve had maybe half a case and always loved the 09 interpretation, but they never showed as ripe and roasty as this bottle. At times it hinted at the Foillard silk I’ve come to know and love, but in the grand scheme of things that was hard to find and the roast was dominant.

In comparison, the 09 Coudert Tardive took a few hours to get going but then it was rockin and rollin with sexy dark fruit, thicker than usual, but such suave and seductive textures. Rippling joy. Although you already knew that.

Also, the 2010 Foillard CdP was another perplexing bottle. I’ve had some glorious clean juicy versions and others which were plagued with strong armpit flavors (Brett? Reduction?) This weekend’s version was again plagued for at least 24 hours, although by day 2 the armpit relented enough for the silky vibrant and seductive texture to provide joy, especially when compared with the 09.
 
did 09 foillard have an alcoholic finish , or just the roasted stuff?
 
To my tastes I wouldn't describe this bottle of 09 as 'alcoholic' although when drunk next to the 10 it was obviously so much more intense in all ways, incuding alcohol.
 
Foillard's 2012 nouveau has been more consistently delicious for me than any recent vintage of the Py. There is some funky this or that in some bottles but the joy has always come through.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

Also, the 2010 Foillard CdP was another perplexing bottle. I’ve had some glorious clean juicy versions and others which were plagued with strong armpit flavors (Brett? Reduction?) This weekend’s version was again plagued for at least 24 hours, although by day 2 the armpit relented enough for the silky vibrant and seductive texture to provide joy, especially when compared with the 09.
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are we talking french or american style armpits here?
 
originally posted by slaton:
Foillard's 2011 nouveau has been more consistently delicious for me than any recent vintage of the Py. There is some funky this or that in some bottles but the joy has always come through.
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Kind of a leap, but I'm a fan of the 11s in general so far, with a sample of n = five or six. All very good, though without the distinctive generosity of the 09s.
 
Inspired by this post, we dug into a few 2009s last night before GoT.

Unfortunately, the Lapierre was corked. The Descombes Morgon VV was silky, generous, and delicious. Not overdone with fruit, but well stuffed and juicy with a silken texture.

The 2009 Coudert Tardive was much as Rahsaan describes, tightly coiled about its structure for the first hour or so, then slowly unraveling, then finally popping into life. Juicy, tangy, and long it is a stunning wine.

Going to check in on some 2005s in the next week or so and see what, if anything, is going on there.
 
originally posted by VLM: The Descombes Morgon VV was silky, generous, and delicious. Not overdone with fruit, but well stuffed and juicy with a silken texture.
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Nice. I finished all of mine, but loved it when I had it.
 
2008 Chamonard, in both heat-damaged and pristine versions. No surprise that the latter is pretty for 15 minutes before shutting down, a bit like a Bjork album. The heat-damaged version is actually quite drinkable, but very odd if you know what it's supposed to be like. It's as if the Reynauds made Morgon - all fruit and density, no structure, but with a surprising capacity to age.
 
Your post had me digging out a bottle of the 09 Coudert Tardive to try last night.

The first glass had me cursing the 2009 vintage, BJ, and my own wine closet for having a fair number of bottles of 2009 Beaujolais in it.

Thick and ripe with gritty structure. It took effort to down a glass.

Then the wine did an amazing transformation at the 2 hour mark.
I was smiling, all seemed right again.

Thanks.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
It's great of you guys to take these bullets for your Comrades.

Mine aren't within reach.
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I am with you SFJ, but boy they better turn out well, otherwise I'll need something 2 or 3x bigger than the fatsink.
 
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by SFJoe:
It's great of you guys to take these bullets for your Comrades.

Mine aren't within reach.
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I am with you SFJ, but boy they better turn out well, otherwise I'll need something 2 or 3x bigger than the fatsink.
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Oh, you and me both, brother. At least for Coudert.
 
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