Hey, I know disorderlies are not wildly interested in the points people, but oldtimers going back some 17 years to the old Winelovers forum may remember Luis Gutiérrez, a Spaniard who was one of the early participants. Since then he has written and tasted at elmundovino, won a couple of awards including one for the book on northwest Spain we wrote with Jesús Barquín (of Equipo Navazos fame), and now he's the same Luis Gutiérrez who's been appointed as Robert Parker's man for Spain and South America. Not at all the classic spoof lover. Thought oldtimers would like to know...
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Luis Gutiérrez
- Thread starter VS
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Well, if nothing else it shows that the WA at long last is taking Spain seriously rather than an afterthought in their coverage. Especially after the various debacles associated with Dr. Big Jay, they needed to do something to repair their Iberian image.
Mark Lipton
(but who's going to review Champagne, Italy, Burgundy and California?)
Mark Lipton
(but who's going to review Champagne, Italy, Burgundy and California?)
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Peter Liem will review Champagne, and Meadows will do Burgundy.
Oh, sorry, you mean in the Wine Advocate?
that would be David and Neal, respectively.
Oh, sorry, you mean in the Wine Advocate?
that would be David and Neal, respectively.
originally posted by MLipton:
(but who's going to review Champagne, Italy, Burgundy and California?)
Parker is back to doing California. Monica Larner has departed the Wine Enthusast and will be covering Italy. Schildknecht is doing Champagne and Neal Martin is covering Burgundy.
originally posted by VS:
the same Luis Gutiérrez who's been appointed as Robert Parker's man for Spain and South America. Not at all the classic spoof lover. Thought oldtimers would like to know...
Thanks, Victor. I hope they are paying Luis a fraction of what he's worth.
I hope it will be as amusing to read Luis on Spain as it is to read Schildknecht on the Loire or Austria and to know that, say, 92 point reviews of Pineau d'Aunis are published in R. Parker's own mag.
Luis' recent accomplishments have not totally escaped North American notice, including the estimable book he did with you.
When will the 2nd edition come out to cover all the cool stuff that didn't make it into the first?
You know, if they dilute Parker out enough with real people, it might be worth subscribing.
If only these talented people would write about wine instead of writing useless tasting notes. Tell us about what we should know, not what we should buy. Teach a man to fish, in the old cliche.
If only these talented people would write about wine instead of writing useless tasting notes. Tell us about what we should know, not what we should buy. Teach a man to fish, in the old cliche.
originally posted by SFJoe:
You know, if they dilute Parker out enough with real people, it might be worth subscribing.
If only these talented people would write about wine instead of writing useless tasting notes. Tell us about what we should know, not what we should buy. Teach a man to fish, in the old cliche.
I think that's hoping for too much, especially with the current ownership.
robert ames
robert ames
if schildknecht can't teach you to fish, you're a vegan.
His classes go too long.originally posted by robert ames:
if schildknecht can't teach you to fish, you're a vegan.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
You know, if they dilute Parker out enough with real people, it might be worth subscribing.
If only these talented people would write about wine instead of writing useless tasting notes. Tell us about what we should know, not what we should buy. Teach a man to fish, in the old cliche.
Even more relevant in Spain, don't you think? Seems like notions of terroir are more tied into tradition and ultimately cuisine, than the way we think about it further north. For example, I would love to hear about blending decisions at a place like Rioja Alta, at various price points. What's behind them, what's the domestic "use case"? Couldn't give a crap who drinks the wines in Las Vegas or San Juan and why.
I'm sure you're correct.originally posted by Yixin:
originally posted by SFJoe:
You know, if they dilute Parker out enough with real people, it might be worth subscribing.
If only these talented people would write about wine instead of writing useless tasting notes. Tell us about what we should know, not what we should buy. Teach a man to fish, in the old cliche.
I think that's hoping for too much, especially with the current ownership.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by SFJoe:
Actually, I would almost subscribe for David, but you pay for an awful lot of points to go with.
Things may have changed since I gave up on my subscription, but if they haven't, reading it for Schildknecht would be like watching the Kubrick Spartacus just to see Peter Ustinov. You have to get through a lot to get to him.
That was my guess.originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Actually, I would almost subscribe for David, but you pay for an awful lot of points to go with.
Things may have changed since I gave up on my subscription, but if I haven't, reading it for Schildknecht would be like watching the Kubrick Spartacus just to see Peter Ustinov. You have to get through a lot to get to him.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by Yule Kim:
Ustinov was pretty good.
I liked the movie as a whole, too. There are other movies that would be first choices for Ustinov fans. I don't think that's the case with Schildknecht, though, so that is a further argument in favor of subscribing, I guess. But really, I'm with Joe. I'm not in the market for scores or tasting notes, even from him. I would be in the market for the general descriptions he writes of what his going on if the signal to noise ratio would be better.