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originally posted by SFJoe:
Something in that neighborhood, I don't know exactly.originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by SFJoe:
I don't keep them, but they are more or less equivalent to good Vouvray--clay over limestone. So I would not be shocked to find them closing down at some point.
how old are the vines, about 17 yrs?
so there's an upside