Sure, you can make fake wine. Easier to start with wine, of course. But there are a few hundred things in a good wine, I'd guess. You could squirt the right amount of each one into a glass and away you go. I don't reckon anything close to the right number have been identified and understood, and there are volatile things that contribute to aroma and non-volatile things that contribute to texture and they would need different methods to measure. Lots of things might not be available off the shelf. Probably some polymers. So a big analytical problem still tbd, and then you have to have a spray bottle of each component. But I don't see why it should be impossible. Just a lot harder than growing grapes.
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Weekend Wines
- Thread starter Gregg G
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originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Although everybody talks as if 2008 were a less alcoholic year in the Rhone, the difference even from 07 wasn't that large, probably not enough to reduce brett. I'll bet the Pegaus are still listed at 14.5 or 15. The difference in 08 was that the ripeness wasn't as overwhelming and in successful wines like Charvin and Pegau and a few others the wine can deliver some more complexity. I like the 99 Pegau a lot, just like I liked the 94. I've only had one bottle of the 08 so far but it seemed cut from the same cloth.
With regard to brett and Pegau, I think it's always there ready to bloom and a lot depends on what that bottle saw. Even bottles from the same store can have seen different treatment before it gets to you. And numbers of people have recorded differences in bottles from the same case. The only sure cure is to be completely brett tolerant--which I pretty much am.
"liked"?
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Although everybody talks as if 2008 were a less alcoholic year in the Rhone, the difference even from 07 wasn't that large, probably not enough to reduce brett. I'll bet the Pegaus are still listed at 14.5 or 15. The difference in 08 was that the ripeness wasn't as overwhelming and in successful wines like Charvin and Pegau and a few others the wine can deliver some more complexity. I like the 99 Pegau a lot, just like I liked the 94. I've only had one bottle of the 08 so far but it seemed cut from the same cloth.
With regard to brett and Pegau, I think it's always there ready to bloom and a lot depends on what that bottle saw. Even bottles from the same store can have seen different treatment before it gets to you. And numbers of people have recorded differences in bottles from the same case. The only sure cure is to be completely brett tolerant--which I pretty much am.
"liked"?
Alas, I drank my last bottle of 94 Pegau about a month ago. I really liked it. But I'll be doing no more liking of it in the future I expect, so "liked." Of course, if you take it that a like is a transtemporal quality--once it exists, it always exists, even if the object you like ceases to--then you are right to question my verb tense.