Couscous royal & Bandol 2000 at the TGJP

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pierre-alain benoit
Hello,
We made a very nice dinner at the TGJP in Paris last friday with a couscous royal, Cole K., 6 Bandol 2000 (Tempier, Lafran-Veyrolles, Gros Noré, La Tour du Bon & Pibarnon) and a very old and nice sweet Jurançon (Cauhapé)... See
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Best regards
pierre-alain benoit
 
In the Northern Rhone, 2000 seems to be an early drinking version. I wonder if Bandol is as well.
Could you elaborate on the Pibarnon having a disappointing Bordeaux characteristic? There's been some discussion on this board that Pibarnon is now a more modern style. Is that your impression?
I have a couple of bottles of La Tour Bon blanc. I don't know recall seeing a red at the Kermit Lynch store.
 
Yo,
2000 in Bandol is a hot vintage (not the best) with burning aromas. About Pibarnon the 1998, 2000 & 2001 taste like a "Bordeaux of the south" with wood (old) and no mediterranen aromas (thyme, spices...).
Best regards
 
originally posted by pab:
Yo,
2000 in Bandol is a hot vintage (not the best) with burning aromas. About Pibarnon the 1998, 2000 & 2001 taste like a "Bordeaux of the south" with wood (old) and no mediterranen aromas (thyme, spices...).
Best regards
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eeech...without the herbs, why drink Bandol?
 
I confess I haven't had Pibarnon for a number of years, but that's because they went the international/Bordeaux route already back in the late 1980s. I've never understood why they've continued to get good mentions. But then I could say the same about loads of Rhône producers, too.
 
Yes the Pibarnon was noted specifically for the lack of garrigue by a Melonchonard who grew up with garrigue in his backyard and so his disappointment was extreme.

For those who know a little French pab is quite good at the taxonomy of Frenchmen from the countryside and if you come to Paris Marie Sabine will help you with your pronunciation.
 
"bresaola de cheval"

You guys know how to live.

Made at home?

(A friend with a basement once asked me, "Who buys bresaola?")
 
The distribution of Americans with ties and short sleeves is geographically restricted, btw, though some of them do escape the country or appear on TV shows.
 
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I come to Paris from Milan and usually pop into EATS http://www.eatstore.it/beta/sezione.asp?strut=1
to find something that my culturally deprived Parisian friends lack.

With the couscous theme I was discouraged (almost) from pork products and so I settled on the aged horsey Bresaola and something from a cow that I was not exactly sure what it was.

Sadly I have no basement nor any horses.
 
It seems to me there was another dinner at which Melonchonards and the wearing of short-sleeved shirts and ties came up. What is the attraction of this subject of conversation?
 
Hi,
I dont't know why but every strangers who come to dinner ask the same thing : What is a melenchonard ? How is possible to be a melenchonard ? We have got one specimen and we show him. That's all.
 
Several vignerons and one restaurant critic I know are Melenchonards (if I understand pab's typology correctly).
 
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
Well, they might be Melenchonistes (and Jonathan this time the discussion centered on the ard/iste distinction).
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There is a difference between the two? Now that is a discussion I would have been interested in.
 
originally posted by pab:
Hi,
I dont't know why but every strangers who come to dinner ask the same thing : What is a melenchonard ? How is possible to be a melenchonard ? We have got one specimen and we show him. That's all.
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But where does the tie with short sleeved shirt thing come in? Do all melenchonards have this taste in clothing or only your specimen or only melenchonards and not melenchonistes?
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Cole Kendall:
Well, they might be Melenchonistes (and Jonathan this time the discussion centered on the ard/iste distinction).
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There is a difference between the two? Now that is a discussion I would have been interested in.
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Yes; from what I understood from pab, the "iste" is fairly neutral while the "ard" is derogatory. "ard" reminded me a bit of the Italian "accio" suffix, that takes a normal word and makes it negative although after some reflection it might be closer to the less frequently used "astro" suffix (giovine = youth, giovinastro = thug).

And all Melenchon discussions eventually revert to the Melenchonard at the table who I have personally seen in a "chemisette".
 
I'm ashamed to admit my ignorance of this distinction. It's not completely general since it doesn't work for communard, which is importantly not merely evaluatively different from a communiste, or a montagnard (I've never heard of a montagniste). But now that you mention it, there is philosphard and patriotard. I wonder if there's a further linguistic rule that distinguishes pejorative from neutral uses, since a philosophiste isn't much better.
 
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