harder better faster stronger?

In the below-16% world, I've sometimes had a more burning feeling in a 13% Loire red than in a 15% Jumilla one. Alcohol content and alcoholic mouthfeel are not directly related - the overall balance, including the amount of dry extract and glycerin in the wine, is the crucial factor in the mouthfeel and harmony. But then, I don't know if this would still apply in this strange, above-18% world... Port is 19% and always does feel somewhat alcoholic, doesn't it?
 
I've been wondering for years why some enterprising young pinot noir producer winemaker hasn't used the yeast that Sam Adams and some smaller brewer were fighting about, that apparently ferments past 21% before kicking the boozy bucket. Maybe my wait is over.

Per the referenced thread, the highest labeled alcohol (non-fortified) I've tasted was probably something from a winery that just went out of business, and thus I won't pick on them anymore. The highest unlabeled was indicated at 14% and, according to the winemaker, was actually 17.2% (and still not dry). But that's just what I know about.
 
originally posted by VS:
In the below-16% world, I've sometimes had a more burning feeling in a 13% Loire red than in a 15% Jumilla one. Alcohol content and alcoholic mouthfeel are not directly related - the overall balance, including the amount of dry extract and glycerin in the wine, is the crucial factor in the mouthfeel and harmony. But then, I don't know if this would still apply in this strange, above-18% world... Port is 19% and always does feel somewhat alcoholic, doesn't it?

Yeah, I've noticed the same thing, hot tasting low alcohol wines and fairly big bruisers that didn't seem hot at all. But the 16-18% wine world does seem like a whole new world.

Perhaps just as bad, if not worse, are wines made from places that produce huge wines and someone just runs a hose into the barrels and you get wines that taste, well, watery. I may like french wannabees from hot climes even worse than cocktail wines. I am used to putting a little water in the Cragganmore after dinner, but watering down my Bourgognes is not something with much appeal.
 
I made a couple of wines that were around 16%. They got great scores from whathisname, but I'm seldom moved to drink them. They'll live way longer than I will.
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Bwood:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Not clever, no quip
Oh no,how could I forget? I saw the original on Broadway, but Mary-Louise Parker always makes me tear up.

Wow, I've got to watch this, I missed this version. I have a real weakness for MLP.

Very highly recommended. Great performances all around

In some ways better than the original because you get the close up emotion. Al Pacino's Roy Cohn is something to behold.
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Bwood:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Not clever, no quip
Oh no,how could I forget? I saw the original on Broadway, but Mary-Louise Parker always makes me tear up.

Wow, I've got to watch this, I missed this version. I have a real weakness for MLP.

Very highly recommended. Great performances all around

In some ways better than the original because you get the close up emotion. Al Pacino's Roy Cohn is something to behold.

Indeed. And, much as I loved Stephen Spinella onstage, I thought Justin Kirk was nothing short of brilliant.

And Meryl, of course. My oh my.
 
Whatever happened to Spinella? So great. Although he never really translated well to film, there was one movie he did that was quite good. I can't remember the name though.
 
Spinella still works. He was on ER a couple weeks back playing a child molester, looking not quite as thin as he did in his Prior Walter days. IMDB has him on a bunch of stuff--24, Grey's Anatomy, Law & Order, Heroes, Milk. Seems like he's paying the rent, if not hitting the Lotto. Which is near top of the heap, in actor terms.
 
Back
Top