Let's start a debate - terroir

"[T]he same breed of asparagus will taste differently ... if grown in Vallauris, near Cannes, or in California."

The California asparagus spits, I've heard.
 
Paraphrasing from Kevin Harvey at Rhys . . .
Dirt is the most important element in wine grape growing. Climate, aspect, clone, etc. are factors but dirt is paramount.
I may have mentioned previously that he has one vineyard that is on one side of the San Andreas Fault and one on the other. They are less than a football field apart and they make noticeably different pinots. (Sounds like Burgundy.)
This is probably not a an extraordinary point of view. But what impressed me about it is the amount of time and money that they have spent trying to figure this out.
No stone left unturned, if you will.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Paraphrasing from Kevin Harvey at Rhys . . .
Dirt is the most important element in wine grape growing. Climate, aspect, clone, etc. are factors but dirt is paramount.
I may have mentioned previously that he has one vineyard that is on one side of the San Andreas Fault and one on the other. They are less than a football field apart and they make noticeably different pinots. (Sounds like Burgundy.)
This is probably not a an extraordinary point of view. But what impressed me about it is the amount of time and money that they have spent trying to figure this out.
No stone left unturned, if you will.
Best, Jim
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Dirt...or rocks? I thought Kevin was looking more at the geology underneath the soil?
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Paraphrasing from Kevin Harvey at Rhys . . .
Dirt is the most important element in wine grape growing. Climate, aspect, clone, etc. are factors but dirt is paramount.
I may have mentioned previously that he has one vineyard that is on one side of the San Andreas Fault and one on the other. They are less than a football field apart and they make noticeably different pinots. (Sounds like Burgundy.)
This is probably not a an extraordinary point of view. But what impressed me about it is the amount of time and money that they have spent trying to figure this out.
No stone left unturned, if you will.
Best, Jim
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Are the exposures and slopes of the two Pinot sites identical?
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Paraphrasing from Kevin Harvey at Rhys . . .
Dirt is the most important element in wine grape growing. Climate, aspect, clone, etc. are factors but dirt is paramount.
I may have mentioned previously that he has one vineyard that is on one side of the San Andreas Fault and one on the other. They are less than a football field apart and they make noticeably different pinots. (Sounds like Burgundy.)
This is probably not a an extraordinary point of view. But what impressed me about it is the amount of time and money that they have spent trying to figure this out.
No stone left unturned, if you will.
Best, Jim
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Dirt...or rocks? I thought Kevin was looking more at the geology underneath the soil?
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Both.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Paraphrasing from Kevin Harvey at Rhys . . .
Dirt is the most important element in wine grape growing. Climate, aspect, clone, etc. are factors but dirt is paramount.
I may have mentioned previously that he has one vineyard that is on one side of the San Andreas Fault and one on the other. They are less than a football field apart and they make noticeably different pinots. (Sounds like Burgundy.)
This is probably not a an extraordinary point of view. But what impressed me about it is the amount of time and money that they have spent trying to figure this out.
No stone left unturned, if you will.
Best, Jim
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Are the exposures and slopes of the two Pinot sites identical?
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'Can't say with certainty but Kevin made a point of saying the only distinction was soil.
Best, Jim
 
Not long ago one of the new natural cool kids with dreadlocks and a Che Guevara tshirt explained me : Terroir is sooooo "petit bourgeois"...
9 posts is a maximum for such a subject.
 
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30 years ago there was a senior professor in my department ostensibly working on Kosciusko's letters, or something like that. I knew that the project had no future, because he didn't pronounce the name as I had grown up pronouncing it because of the highway: koz ee yous ko.
 
originally posted by Brézème:
Not long ago one of the new natural cool kids with dreadlocks and a Che Guevara tshirt explained me : Terroir is sooooo "petit bourgeois"...
9 posts is a maximum for such a subject.
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Hey, you were one of the inventors of all this hipster terroir business; you can't ridicule it now; that's so...hipster.
 
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