FAQ Question

[Jay Miller]

"Yes, yes, we know you're justifiably proud of your little dog-and-pony show, and we're very happy for you. To that end, we do have a Disorderly Links page that just might suit your needs. All any registered member in good standing needs to do is fill out the online form briefly detailing their website and concomitant plan for world domination, then submit it for the Politburo's review. If you're not a spammer or a scammer there's good reason to believe you'll pass muster and be eternally enshrined in our pantheon of clickable links."

I'm guessing the reason I can't actually find any such pantheon is that no link has ever passed muster?

 

[Jeff Grossman]

Ask them about the rich text editor experiment. If you dare.

 

[Politburo]

Construction funds ran out before the end of the Five-Year Plan.

 

[Mike Evans]

Enjoy your trip to the Gulag. . . I mean, corrective labor camp, Jay.

 

[MLipton]

Jay,
Long ago, when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Junior Professor, I learned an important lesson: never criticize something unless you want to end up being put in charge of it.

Just sayin'
Mark Lipton

 

[Cliff]

originally posted by MLipton:
Lessons from AcademeJay,
Long ago, when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Junior Professor, I learned an important lesson: never criticize something unless you want to end up being put in charge of it.

Just sayin'
Mark Lipton

This ought to be in the faculty handbook.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Cliff:

originally posted by MLipton:
Lessons from AcademeJay,
Long ago, when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Junior Professor, I learned an important lesson: never criticize something unless you want to end up being put in charge of it.

Just sayin'
Mark Lipton

This ought to be in the faculty handbook.

There's a name for academics who need such information printed out: department chair.

 

[Jay Miller]

originally posted by MLipton:
Lessons from AcademeJay,
Long ago, when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Junior Professor, I learned an important lesson: never criticize something unless you want to end up being put in charge of it.

Just sayin'
Mark Lipton

Who was criticizing? I was complimenting our most excellent Politburo's discrimination and high standards.

 

[Ian Fitzsimmons]

Administrative ju-jitsu.

 

[Cliff]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Cliff:

originally posted by MLipton:
Lessons from AcademeJay,
Long ago, when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Junior Professor, I learned an important lesson: never criticize something unless you want to end up being put in charge of it.

Just sayin'
Mark Lipton

This ought to be in the faculty handbook.

There's a name for academics who need such information printed out: department chair.

Said by one who knows.

 

[Mike Evans]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:

originally posted by Cliff:

originally posted by MLipton:
Lessons from AcademeJay,
Long ago, when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Junior Professor, I learned an important lesson: never criticize something unless you want to end up being put in charge of it.

Just sayin'
Mark Lipton

This ought to be in the faculty handbook.

There's a name for academics who need such information printed out: department chair.

This reminds me of an argument I overheard as an undergraduate among a couple of my professors. It was a small department with about 10 to 12 professors, five or six of whom were full professors with endowed positions and 20 to 35 years of tenure. Each was passionately arguing why he shouldn't be the next chair of the department, and why another should have to take the position. My mentor, who was one of these professors, later explained to me that, whatever "prestige" might attach to the position (and it was clear from his contemptuous tone that he felt there was very little), the aggravation far outweighed it. The value of that lesson was as great as anything I learned in class, and the principle is in no way limited to academia.

 

[Tom Glasgow]

Outside the University, the next stepup the administrative ladder comes with a raise in salary, not a measly stipend. You can point to the learned professions, such as law and medicine, to dispute that but in business and government the next step up the ladder means you career is advancing.
Most full professors have little interest in managing, much less a side job herding cats.

 

[Cliff]

Ah, a stipend would have been nice.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

I get a reasonable stipend, though no one would do it for that. What they need to do to attract prominent researchers is what places like Hopkins and Cornell do, reward service with leave time.

 

[Cliff]

The consequences for turning the job down can be severe. Incentive comes in multiple forms.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

No one at my university takes punitive action if you refuse to do it. You, of course, do get thought of and treated as someone not willing to do your share if you are otherwise qualified. But most of the kind of faculty Mike Evans was talking about wouldn't even be able to work up sufficient energy not to care about that.

 

[Cliff]

I was thinking of people who might take the job in one's stead.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Cliff:
I was thinking of people who might take the job in one's stead.

Yes, you're right. I forgot about that.

 

[Eden Mylunsch]

I move we increase the stipend paid to the politboro. Revenue can be skimmed off our Wine Disorder subscription fees.

-Eden (stipend ≠ bribe, right?)