Wow, that Musar at Chambers went fast
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John McIlwain
John McIlwain
What VLM said, and the red can be all over the place. Somehow it kinda works, in the way that it can with Quintarellis up to a point. But I feel plenty of older bottles are like being handed gun with an iffy safety and one in the chamber. Respect the wines, just not a buyer these days.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
I still think the current release pricing is well worth it for such distinctive, delicious and age worthy wines. Prices on older vintages less so.
We just happened to find a bottle of the '02 rouge tonight while eating dinner at a Lebanese restaurant in Windsor, Canada. VA? Not so I'd notice. Brett? Not a whiff. What there was was a very primary wine whose berryish fruit profile could easily be mistaken for Zin. Yes, there was an herbal mote and a touch of pencil lead in the nose. The food brought
Out food brought out the spice in the wine, but this seemed like something with at least a decade ahead of it.
Mark Lipton
Out food brought out the spice in the wine, but this seemed like something with at least a decade ahead of it.
Mark Lipton
Bob Parsons Alberta
Bob Parsons
I have been told that Montreal is the place to find elderly Musar so head that way when next up here Mark.
If in London, City Beverage is a must visit. Great selection of past vintages, many in halves. Always terrific service, nothing too much trouble.
The City Beverage Company Ltd.,
303, Old Street,
Before holding a Musar tasting a few years back, I was urged to give the wines a real "long-ass decant" (Serge's phrase apparently). Opened reds and whites in the morning (rose and Hochar label got a couple of hours late afternoon) and the wines were all over the place. It was amazing to see how the wines changed over the course of the day but they finally got there; the reds becoming harmonious and resolved and the whites becoming rich and honeyed. Even the current red vintage became very delicious.
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
i drank a 91 white last night that was beautiful. great match with curried shrimp on udon noodles.
Saina Nieminen
Saina Nieminen
'04 is a good but not great Musar but it wasn't terribly expressive when I opened one recently. Oddly enough 2003 already is open so try to find that or the 2005 for a young wine drinking well.
Got to have dinner with M. Hochar and his younger son when they were in town recently. They (or their importer, more like) chose to pour white and red in parallel pairs, which I thought was a real shame.
They showed whites from 05, 03, 00, and 98, and reds from 05, 02 and 88. This was my first time tasting the whites and it was eye-opening. 05 was an unusually aromatic vintage, according to them, and it's having a gorgeous youth. The 03 and 00 were showing poorly - too dominated by wood to have much interest for me, but the 98 showed where these would start to go once they came together.
I remember tasting Musar Rouge for the first time, I think at Jay Miller's place, and I have to say the reds came across as less distinctive than I remembered. Beautiful wine, for sure, but less interesting than the whites.
They showed whites from 05, 03, 00, and 98, and reds from 05, 02 and 88. This was my first time tasting the whites and it was eye-opening. 05 was an unusually aromatic vintage, according to them, and it's having a gorgeous youth. The 03 and 00 were showing poorly - too dominated by wood to have much interest for me, but the 98 showed where these would start to go once they came together.
I remember tasting Musar Rouge for the first time, I think at Jay Miller's place, and I have to say the reds came across as less distinctive than I remembered. Beautiful wine, for sure, but less interesting than the whites.
Jeff Connell
Jeff Connell
Not as fast as the Clos Ste. Hune just went; price no object.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
And risk of premox also no object apparently.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
The 'delete' key is your friend.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
If only I could get rid of premox that easily...
I wasn't even slightly tempted after that 1998 I opened for your anniversary.
Lou Kessler
Lou Kessler
I'd like to sell you some perfectly stored premox Chablis. Will haggle on price.
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they could not have been b/c CSH is the property of the people
(this would have been more impressive if I had access to politburo account)
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
Oh, I'm quite sure the non-premoxed bottles will be spectacular.