Some specific Paris restaurant questions

BJ

BJ
Going to be there a couple of weeks over Christmas with family.

Would like a really nice fish oriented restaurant, not crazy expensive, but quality.

Also, the Mme and I want to do a lunch at a Michelin 3 star and not sure which one to try. We've always had a thing about the Grand Vefour (not really sure why) but would love to get input/thoughts.
 
The Septime crew just opened a fish oriented place called Clamato that sounds excellent. It is first come first serve. Septime is one of my favorite restaurants in Pars. Chef trained at L'Arpege.

Clamato

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These are all great, thanks.

One of the things we are going to do is have a 30th birthday lunch with the Mme's niece; we will have other family and are realizing a classic nicer brasserie would probably fit the bill - anyone been to Benoit, or Dernier?
 
I was at Benoit in '01. They're well regarded for their cassoulet, which indeed was quite good, but otherwise they're pretty classic bistrot fare. The atmosphere was upscale bistrot, but nothing terribly fancy.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by BJ:
These are all great, thanks.

One of the things we are going to do is have a 30th birthday lunch with the Mme's niece; we will have other family and are realizing a classic nicer brasserie would probably fit the bill - anyone been to Benoit, or Dernier?

Bistrot Paul Bert would be nice. They have a 18 lunch special. Very good wine list with some older Overnoy at reasonable prices.
 
Another birthday possibility: Au Petit Tonneau, 20 rue Surcouf (7th) was once run by Mme. Ginette Boyer, if not the first, then very nearly the first woman chef/owner to run a bistro in Paris, for whom the expression "cuisine de femme" was coined. She’s retired, and Jais Mimoun, who used to work for Eric Fréchon at “Epicure” in The Bristol, is now running the kitchen. The place is small but not hard to find, the staff, at least when I was there last in 2008, was pleasant and helpful, and there was a pretty good list (I remember a lot of Rhone and Beaujolais). Not outstanding, but cozy, and definitely typical.

One other thought: L’Epi Dupin. It’s got a kind of show-bizzy web site now, but I am assured by my Perigordian friends that the restaurant remains solid.

François Pasteau, Erwan Lévêque and Florent Mavit are still on the job as they were when we first visited the place in 2000, courtesy of Patricia Welles, the other nice lady from Wisconsin who likes Paris best. The best description I can come up with is that they take Southwestern standards—duck, pig, foie gras, cepes, etc.—and fool around with them in a non-molecular way. The list has some wines you’d expect from Cahors and Madiran, but also Domaine Gauby. Seating can be ridiculously tight--more than once we were recruited by the wait staff to pass dishes to people at tables they couldn't reach--but the whole thing is fun, the food is excellent, and it is not heart-stoppingly expensive. Metro: Sevres-Babylon.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Lunch at l'Arpege was fantastic last year.

The food at Arpege is amazingly good, but the wine list is generally bad and uniformly harsh in its pricing. It is one reason we stopped going 2 years ago, after 17 years of going at least once or twice per year.

GV lost its 3d star in 2008; i ate there only once --probably late 90s; room's decor is quite special, as a history piece; the food was merely good. Service largely correct, but no better.

L'Astrance is a nice idea; also consider Taillevent --also only a 2-star these days -- food is very good --not particularly modern; lievre a la royale likely still on the menu at Xmas time, and the wine list is very good and very fairly priced (within that class of restaurant). Lunch there is delightful and i doubt you can find better service anywhere in France.

For the birthday, you might want to think about Trou Gascon. Not centrally located, but as a result not much touristed and great winter time food; super wine list; lots of bargains in its Southwestern selections; some still left in Burgundy and Bordeaux too.
 
for a reasonably priced meal very centrally located, with an excellent and fairly priced wine list heavy on jura, consider le bougainville too? the charcuterie is excellent. expectation setting is important: this is a bistro with very harsh lighting, not particularly atmospheric ambience, and serving good standard intentionally non-innovative food.
 
The lunch menu at l'Arpège is a real bargain compared to what they charge for the dinner menu. Arrive early and eat for 3-4 hours. I personally find the wine list to be better value than at many other expensive French restaurants. They usually have reasonably priced Clos Rougeard and I believe the prices may have gone down in the recent past. Ledoyen also does a less expensive lunch menu but I've never been.

For fish, I strongly recommend La Table d'Aki. The chef cooked the fish at l'Ambroisie for 20 years and the set menu at dinner is entirely fishy.

Spring and Septime both have very good wine lists. If you want well-aged steak, Le Severo has a great wine list, too.

Most restaurants will be closed from sometime before Christmas through January. Look at Paris by Mouth for information about places that might still be open.
 
Bistro Bellet, classic food, modern atmosphere, cheap wine!

Or L'Ami Jean for classic food, classic atmosphere, expensive everything.
 
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