originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by VLM:
I know this isn't therapy, but I've been on a journey of personal discovery and have thus discovered that I mostly don't love the kinds of flavors one gets from older riesling. It almost doesn't matter where it is from. I'll drink the notable exceptions from others cellars.
Now that I know that about myself, I can buy what I want with a clear mind and open heart. I've learned to love myself and my riesling.
if youse talking diesel, youse talk my langwidge. if i wanted barf in my hooch, i'd load up prior to decanting.
that said, i also feel bad about the phrase "older riesling." on average, after all, i also despise older pinot.
the dotster's 94 ob spaet -- the source of all this navel gazing -- had next to zero older riesling character. it was pithy, still orange/apricot primary, with a pleasingly harmonious phenolic / lengthy finish. structurally, it presented like a dry wine, and was more akin to a montlouis than some mosel bullshit.
i fear these wines don't really exist any more, but please don't let encounters with their abused and retarded siblings convince you they are mythical.
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originally posted by VLM:
I'll drink the notable exceptions from others cellars. More specifically, .sasha and SFJoe's cellars.
originally posted by VLM:
I know this isn't therapy, but I've been on a journey of personal discovery and have thus discovered that I mostly don't love the kinds of flavors one gets from older riesling. It almost doesn't matter where it is from. I'll drink the notable exceptions from others cellars.
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I had the same realization recently, during a 1971 Riesling tasting.
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I had the same realization recently, during a 1971 Riesling tasting.
“as if someone were to buy several copies of the morning newspaper to assure himself that what it said was true.” Wittgenstein PI (§265)
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originally posted by Levi Dalton:
"blah, blah, bleh" Magnum PI
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
"blah, blah, bleh" Magnum PI
Wittgenstein PI has the more luxuriant hair.
but that said, lucidity and wisdom are always appreciated in whatever form. i appreciate the notes on the two dull sicilian wines, and am sad that teh industrial jerez failed to excite.
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originally posted by MLipton:
She views the aging of white wine as largely a waste and only likes Riesling when it is fresh
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
"blah, blah, bleh" Magnum PI
Wittgenstein PI has the more luxuriant hair.
but that said, lucidity and wisdom are always appreciated in whatever form. i appreciate the notes on the two dull sicilian wines, and am sad that teh industrial jerez failed to excite.
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Interestingly, I'm not seeking your approval, so no bigs.
originally posted by .sasha:
I'd love to be the n00b arriving to a wine shop, seeking a recommendation on a Sicilian red, with you two simultaneously behind the register.
Gene opened one of these yesterday at the cave. He got it on WineBid, it had been sold originally in DC, and it had a short cork. Il Trifecta di Destructo.originally posted by Gene Vilensky:
The 90 Brucke Auslese is pretty spectacular also.
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
The closed state for red Burgundy is when the wines are showing all structure. That's the exact opposite of showing *no* structure, which is the condition these wines are in when some of us find them past their best.
And yet i find that it is often the structure that is suppressed when a riesling is young and the wines need bottle age to allow the fruit to recede and the wine to come into balance.
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Who's generalizing from one bad night?
originally posted by Yixin:
Guys, you're supposed to wait about 30 years for a decent Spätlese.