Not sure what to put down for the producer: no mention of a grower but the back label says "Blended by Kermit Lynch - Eleve and bottled by Louis Barroul". Ripe woodsy nose, very Cali-like with ripe fruits and 'sexy oak'. Soft in the mouth and flat on the finish with soft plum, tomato six-pack and a finish of oak. B/B+ initially, but moves on up the 2nd & 3rd day to a B+/A- when more delineation is forthcoming...from whence, I know not where. 13%
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TN: Crozes Hermitage, 'Tiercerolles', 2010
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Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by MarkS:
TN: Crozes Hermitage, 'Tiercerolles', 2010Not sure what to put down for the producer: no mention of a grower but the back label says "Blended by Kermit Lynch - Eleve and bottled by Louis Barroul". Ripe woodsy nose, very Cali-like with ripe fruits and 'sexy oak'. Soft in the mouth and flat on the finish with soft plum, tomato six-pack and a finish of oak. B/B+ initially, but moves on up the 2nd & 3rd day to a B+/A- when more delineation is forthcoming...from whence, I know not where. 13%
There is a Louis Barruoul stationed in Gigondas who makes very modern Gigondas with all kinds of special cuvees with special names on them. He has long made a Cote Rotie that I could never taste through all the oak and a CdP that I've never tasted or really wanted too. If your Barroul is Barruoul, Kermit might have sourced some grapes to give it to him to vinify. And your tasting note doesn't make that impossible.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by Brézème:
It's Barruol from St Cosme.
Oak is not an option for sure in his wines negoce or estate. Fantastic old vines vineyards in Gigondas. Really.
I'm not sure what you mean by "oak is not an option." He certainly uses plenty of it, to my taste, and when I visited his caves (ten years ago, to be sure) there was plenty of it there.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by MarkS:
Or, perhaps it was a case of "syrah-mistaken-as-oak", as others sometimes have said the two can get confusingly similar in a glass?
As I said, I was in his cellar. It was oak. Also on the Gigondas, which is not all syrah.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by Brézème:
Well I guess I made a mistake trying to translate too literally a french joke : "chez lui le bois neuf n'est pas en option!" meaning that new oak is a whole part of the house style.
Ah, not optional. Not an option but a requirement. Got it.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
So what the fantastic old vines vineyards produce is soaked in wood. Ugh.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by mlawton:
Could "not an option" be designed to mean that it was a guarantee, not optional??
Just sayin'.
Happy New Years to all, pedantic or not.
You called it. I thought this might be what Brezeme meant. I just wanted to make sure.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Yes. I had the Gigondas recently and that's my experience of it. Clean, glossy, empty.originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
So what the fantastic old vines vineyards produce is soaked in wood. Ugh.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
I remember St. Cosme from the late 90s, maybe to 2000 as a decent Gigondas, a little modern but not offensively so. I started noticing the increased oak regimen in the early aughts and the glossiness Jeff spotted. I stopped buying at that point, though as a matter of curiosity I continued to taste at the Gigondas caveau. I gave that up a couple of years ago.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
This winemaker also has a project going in the Finger Lakes with some local guys. They caused a little stir for putting their riesling in . . . oak barrels.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
originally posted by SFJoe:
I hope you ran 'em out of town.
Not at all. Let a thousand flowers bloom . . .
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
That is doubtful as well.
Steve Guattery
Steve Guattery
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
This winemaker also has a project going in the Finger Lakes with some local guys. They caused a little stir for putting their riesling in . . . oak barrels.
Interesting, thanks. I've been out of the loop for the last year, so I hadn't heard about this. From the website:
"Are you guys 'natural?' That seems to be a big term thrown around right now in the wine world. Let’s just say we do as little as possible, but everything possible to ensure the highest quality possible. We love indigenous yeast, we love low sulphur and generally speaking, we love minimal intervention. There is plenty more to be said about this"