Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
I probably need to try another bottle in a bit; I think we drank the second half too cool. Or else it's just not my thing.
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What did you drink tonight?
- Thread starter Kay Bixler
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I probably need to try another bottle in a bit; I think we drank the second half too cool. Or else it's just not my thing.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
1990 Olga Raffault Chinon Les Picasses 12.5%, ethereal, damp earth, herbs, light tar and leather, ideal weight and acidity, fruit still this side of vibrant. A thing of beauty is a joy for 50 mins.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
Just a bit green, it seemed to me. I will not be filling the cellar with these.
You have a friend who will tell you that's the only thing you should be filling your cellar with. But I don't know if you quite have the Chem to follow his explanations.
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Yule Kim:
How can a Chianti be racist?
Like this.
That is most unfortunate.
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I don't get it.
Every time I pull a 2000 Francois Cotat Rose in the presence of any of the commissars, be it fatboy, GG, SFJoe or any of their immediate superiors in the party hierarchy, the wine seems a good five years past its prime. But it's also, typically, dismissed instantly.
And then every time (OK, not every time, but the last three times, including tonight) I pull one on my own, it is at least interesting or better. Tonight it's fully autumnal - trust me, I know what the woods smell like in October, because it takes at least 10 minutes to find your golf ball once you slice it, among all them yellow and orange leaves. Dried cherries, dried flowers, sea salt, and after initial astringency, perfectly lovely texture. Fine with Maryland crab cakes.
Wait, there is one commissar who would support me in this motion - Raynolds. But he is on the run.
Every time I pull a 2000 Francois Cotat Rose in the presence of any of the commissars, be it fatboy, GG, SFJoe or any of their immediate superiors in the party hierarchy, the wine seems a good five years past its prime. But it's also, typically, dismissed instantly.
And then every time (OK, not every time, but the last three times, including tonight) I pull one on my own, it is at least interesting or better. Tonight it's fully autumnal - trust me, I know what the woods smell like in October, because it takes at least 10 minutes to find your golf ball once you slice it, among all them yellow and orange leaves. Dried cherries, dried flowers, sea salt, and after initial astringency, perfectly lovely texture. Fine with Maryland crab cakes.
Wait, there is one commissar who would support me in this motion - Raynolds. But he is on the run.
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is murphy the dude in the zil?
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originally posted by fatboy:
is murphy the dude in the zil?
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ZIL also makes the special heavy bottles for Cotat Rose now. You can't shoot the fucking wine and it doesn't go premox.
originally posted by .sasha:
Every time I pull a 2000 Francois Cotat Rose in the presence of any of the commissars, be it fatboy, GG, SFJoe or any of their immediate superiors in the party hierarchy, the wine seems a good five years past its prime.
This must be why I've consumed all of mine.
2001, though, is going strong.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by .sasha:
Every time I pull a 2000 Francois Cotat Rose in the presence of any of the commissars, be it fatboy, GG, SFJoe or any of their immediate superiors in the party hierarchy, the wine seems a good five years past its prime.
This must be why I've consumed all of mine.
2001, though, is going strong.
Not the ones you've opened for me.
There is that Murphy guy in the ZIL again
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originally posted by SFJoe:
It's true, we did have a premoxed '01 the last time.
Funny, I haven't had a single premox 2000 out of 18 or so bottles; only an expanding range of natural evolution, more recently
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originally posted by Brad Kane:
I'm not sure you can call a 13 year old rose, even from Cotat, premoxed.
Yes you can.
You can see all sorts of crazy tertiary development in something that's overdue but had run a natural course. These POXed bottles are like the red coats stunned with a phaser.
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originally posted by SFJoe:
.sasha is correct.
this. if a man aspires to ride the zil, he has to sample thoroughly.
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if we want to talk 2001 Loire we need Zul not Zil
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by SFJoe:
It's true, we did have a premoxed '01 the last time.
Uh oh. I've run out of the 2000 rose as well, but am deep on both P & F 2001s. Better get some of those from the warehouse.
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originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by SFJoe:
It's true, we did have a premoxed '01 the last time.
Uh oh. I've run out of the 2000 rose as well, but am deep on both P & F 2001s. Better get some of those from the warehouse.
has anyone tasted the 12s, particularly Francois?
the 11 has taught that there no such thing as a bad vintage for that wine, it's just a question of when to drink them
Tonight, Jean wanted a red wine for an aperitif. As a result, I opened the liter bottle of 2012 Andi Knauss Trollinger, which after a decent chill proved to be exactly what the doctor ordered: lightly fruity and dancing across the palate, singing a melody of "glouglou" as it capers past. Upon the arrival of the applewood smoked duck from the grill, we switched to a bottle of '08 Digioa-Royer Bourgogne, a bottle hand sold to me by CSW 3-4 years ago. It was all that one could have asked of it: earthy, slightly vegetal with tart raspberry fruit and a lean profile that belied the depth of the wine. Really great with the duck, too.
Mark Lipton
Mark Lipton