What did you drink tonight?

originally posted by Yixin:
Nicolas Potel in town, bottles in tow.

And from bottles.

'85 Potel Clos Vougeot - faded, a bit too advanced.

Didn't know that Potel made any wines from the Cote d'Or until Nicolas started his negotiant business in 96-97. Is this the same Potel, or some relative?
 
originally posted by Yixin:
But I find myself enjoying these dinners less and less due to advancing age.
What a funny thing to say. I would think that your greater experience and skill give you easier access to Some Truth.
 
originally posted by Yixin:
'95 Dom Perignon - Hmm.
'96 Henriot Cuvée des Enchanteleurs - Double hmmm.

Does the '96 get an extra "m" as well as a doubleness?

What do you mean by both of these? No idea in any direction.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Claude Kolm:
$45 is a damn good price for Vosne-Romanée, even for a producer not highly sought-after like Mongéard-Mugneret. Is that a wholesale price? Even if it is, marking it up to retail would be $67.50, still quite decent for village Vosne these days.

I continue to struggle with M-M (although I haven't tasted their 2010s yet, even though I own a few), but for a very specific reason.

I thought their 85's were not bad...

Indeed. Also some of the best 83s I've tried, if not the best, brilliant 91s and excellent 93s with an upside.
 
originally posted by Andrew Zachary:
originally posted by Yixin:
Nicolas Potel in town, bottles in tow.

And from bottles.

'85 Potel Clos Vougeot - faded, a bit too advanced.

Didn't know that Potel made any wines from the Cote d'Or until Nicolas started his negotiant business in 96-97. Is this the same Potel, or some relative?

He's buying up stocks left in cellars. I don't know where he got CdV 1985, but when I go down the list of candidates who might have bottles to sell, I'm not encouraged, unlike some of the other appellations (where, in fact, I do know the sources in many cases).
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
decided to celebrate with a shitty bottle of Vosne-Romanée.

actually Kay, not sure why you'd go for 2010 these days given your affinity for things of Touraine persuasion, and the general availability of 2011s.
 
originally posted by VLM:

I'm sure you're right. I'm a dilettante at best when it comes to fly fishing. How about native Bull on the Blackfoot?

... and I'm not? You just happened to hit a very distinct pocket of memory for me.

What would be native on the Clark's Fork? Rainbow?

According to Ken, yes. But I can't recall seeing any Rainbow on the Clark Fork (and this from a Californian who saw little else in his home state) or elsewhere in the region.

Anyway, taking a bit of creative license to paint an image. I guess I should stick to my day job...

And a great image it was. Sorry for intruding on it.

Mark Lipton
 
He's been buying a lot of old stock and releasing them under the Maison Roche de Bellene name. There are estate wines under the Domaine Roche de Bellene label.

The Maison releases are as one would expect - variable. The domaine wines are better, in my experience, but don't expect the father's touch.

I left out a lot of older Krohn port and colheitas, which with hindsight were a delicious but very bad idea.

I'm not a fan of Dom Perignon, generally, and this magnum was not that fresh. Several friends use it as their house champagne, having picked bottles up in a fire sale, so unfortunately I have to drink it quite often. It's always a bit of a shock to drink commercial Champagnes. The Henriot was probably damaged somewhere in transit, but I'm basing that on the disjointed structure rather than extensive experience with the '96s from that house.
 
originally posted by Yixin:
I'm not a fan of Dom Perignon, generally

At least you are consistent, given that you drink your Spaetlesen too early,
 
originally posted by Ken Schramm:

I had the same thought about browns myself. I don't think they're "native" to anywhere west of the pond. Stream-bred, maybe, but "not from around these parts." I think the natives on the Clark Fork would be rainbow/cutthroats - brookies aren't native anywhere west of the Mississippi. Pretty sure the Dollies are an import, too. That's a great river. I'm a little envious.

Interesting, Ken, and a good reminder that I should think twice before opening my mouth. As I said to the Monkey, I can't recall seeing any Rainbow in the region, but that's just my experience and not meant to be indicative of much. Cutthroat I encountered aplenty, but always in alpine lakes. They must have been in the river systems, too, but apparently weren't biting then.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Ken Schramm:

I had the same thought about browns myself. I don't think they're "native" to anywhere west of the pond. Stream-bred, maybe, but "not from around these parts." I think the natives on the Clark Fork would be rainbow/cutthroats - brookies aren't native anywhere west of the Mississippi. Pretty sure the Dollies are an import, too. That's a great river. I'm a little envious.

Interesting, Ken, and a good reminder that I should think twice before opening my mouth. As I said to the Monkey, I can't recall seeing any Rainbow in the region, but that's just my experience and not meant to be indicative of much. Cutthroat I encountered aplenty, but always in alpine lakes. They must have been in the river systems, too, but apparently weren't biting then.

Mark Lipton

Looks like Bull, Cutthroat and something called Redband.
 
Last night a 2012 von Schubert Maximin Grunhauser Qba set off fireworks. Over the Hudson River. It was really impressive.

Arnold claimed the fireworks might be related some upcoming sporting event but I told him that if such a thing was happening I would certainly have heard about it.

The wine itself was bright and vibrant and completely enjoyable. Purchased at Garnet about 2 weeks ago, my first purchase there in about a decade.
 
Last night, a green smoothie. The night previous, six vintages of Levet Chavaroche and Journaries. Swoon.

I've also found that '98 Clos du Bourg sec to be a little "moldy", but with sufficient decanting it seems to come around.
 
originally posted by slaton:
Last night, a green smoothie. The night previous, six vintages of Levet Chavaroche and Journaries. Swoon.

Which vintages? I recently had a chance to taste through both Levet cuvees from 2005-10. Swoony.
 
98 Cortese Rabaja had plenty of Nebbiolo deliciousness, not electric but seems perfect with baked ziti on a cold, foggy NW night.

12 Pepiere Briords gets a wow vote. First try of this vintage for me. I need to pick up some more of this.
 
My co worker who is a big Seahawks fan bought two tickets (5K for the pair, ouch) to the game.
She is staying in Jersey City via a vrbo rental.

Any restaurants I should direct her to?

They like wine but are not geeked out over it, so maybe more for food then drinks.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by slaton:
Last night, a green smoothie. The night previous, six vintages of Levet Chavaroche and Journaries. Swoon.

Which vintages? I recently had a chance to taste through both Levet cuvees from 2005-10. Swoony.
Same vintages here.

Tasted a similar lineup about a year ago which included 2003 and 2004. Most of the wines were more generous this time around, although unsurprisingly 2010 was far more closed.
 
originally posted by Marc D:


12 Pepiere Briords gets a wow vote. First try of this vintage for me. I need to pick up some more of this.

12 Briords is the best young Muscadet I have ever had. I never had the 96 in its youth, so I can't comment.

I think that it may be sold out around town (and no mags!). I have told friends around the country to buy whatever they see.
 
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