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This one is the easy going of the bunch and certainly the most fruit forward. You'd really appreciate the others in '98 then. But yeah, it's delicious, no question.
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What did you drink tonight?
- Thread starter Kay Bixler
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This one is the easy going of the bunch and certainly the most fruit forward. You'd really appreciate the others in '98 then. But yeah, it's delicious, no question.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
originally posted by SFJoe:
Coelacanth wine!originally posted by Kay Bixler:
From the archives: 1997 Clos Roche-Blanche gamay is just remarkable.
At first I thought you were implying the wine had a hollow spine.
No, just kidding, I had to look it up like everybody else.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Coelacanth wine!originally posted by Kay Bixler:
From the archives: 1997 Clos Roche-Blanche gamay is just remarkable.
At first I thought you were implying the wine had a hollow spine.
No, just kidding, I had to look it up like everybody else.
What do you mean "everybody else"?
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
1998 Hermann Dönnhoff Norheimer Kirschheck Riesling Spätlese Nahe totally lovely and an argument for ageing Dönnhoff
This one is the easy going of the bunch and certainly the most fruit forward. You'd really appreciate the others in '98 then. But yeah, it's delicious, no question.
As Pushkin used to say, it had a gossamer delicacy, a blend of whimsy and punctiliousness.
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weingut sabine koch tübingener sonnenhalden burgunder-baron spätlese, troken, 2012 - for a naturally grown and fermented wine from teh hood, this is surprisingly accomplished. a lighter hand with teh sugar bag in the cellar, and i could have been really excited about it, even. there are some nice materials here.
while the experience is not a patch on kay's cab franc, it is a nice reminder of the joys of drinking local.
anyone with teh jancis book care to enlighten me on wtf "baron" is?
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while the experience is not a patch on kay's cab franc, it is a nice reminder of the joys of drinking local.
anyone with teh jancis book care to enlighten me on wtf "baron" is?
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Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
originally posted by fatboy:
wtf "baron" is?
According to this, it's a cross of Cabernet Sauvignon X (Merzling X (Zarya Severa X St. Laurent)) but basically behaves like pinot noir.
georg lauer
georg lauer
are you sure you want to know?
Cab sauv and Bronner (child of Merzling and Gm6494, with Merzling itself resulting from Seuve-Villard 5276, Riesling and Rulaender))
so says http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_(Rebsorte)
and wheretf is that winery in Tue?
Cab sauv and Bronner (child of Merzling and Gm6494, with Merzling itself resulting from Seuve-Villard 5276, Riesling and Rulaender))
so says http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_(Rebsorte)
and wheretf is that winery in Tue?
georg lauer
georg lauer
so Jeff's source was right
here is the info from Dres Frankenstein themselves:
STAATLICHES WEINBAUINSTITUT FREIBURG Baron
Kreuzungskombination:
Cabernet Sauvignon X (Merzling X (Zarya Severa X St. Laurent))
Zuchtstammnummer / Kreuzungsjahr:
FR 455-83 r / 1983
Austrieb: mit Bl. Spätburgunder Blütezeitpkt.: mit Bl. Spätburgunder
Pero.-Festigkeit: Oidium-Festigkeit: Verrieselung: Stiellähme: Traubengröße: Beerengröße/-dichte:
sehr gut
gut
mittel
gering
mittel
mittel / gering
Traubenentwkl./
Traubenschluss: mit Bl. Spätburgunder
Färben: kurz vor Bl. Spätburgunder Erntereife: einige Tage vor Bl. Spätbg.
Ertragsniveau: 115 - 135 kg/a Mostgewicht: wie Bl. Spätburgunder Fäulnisanteil: sehr gering Weintyp: fruchtig, farbintensiv, extrakt- und phenolreich
here is the info from Dres Frankenstein themselves:
STAATLICHES WEINBAUINSTITUT FREIBURG Baron
Kreuzungskombination:
Cabernet Sauvignon X (Merzling X (Zarya Severa X St. Laurent))
Zuchtstammnummer / Kreuzungsjahr:
FR 455-83 r / 1983
Austrieb: mit Bl. Spätburgunder Blütezeitpkt.: mit Bl. Spätburgunder
Pero.-Festigkeit: Oidium-Festigkeit: Verrieselung: Stiellähme: Traubengröße: Beerengröße/-dichte:
sehr gut
gut
mittel
gering
mittel
mittel / gering
Traubenentwkl./
Traubenschluss: mit Bl. Spätburgunder
Färben: kurz vor Bl. Spätburgunder Erntereife: einige Tage vor Bl. Spätbg.
Ertragsniveau: 115 - 135 kg/a Mostgewicht: wie Bl. Spätburgunder Fäulnisanteil: sehr gering Weintyp: fruchtig, farbintensiv, extrakt- und phenolreich
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originally posted by georg lauer:
and wheretf is that winery in Tue?
unterjesingen. i think, as we approach armageddon, that the terroir is promising.
the baron is too dominant, in this stuff, i fear.
that said, they used to make an interesting schwarzriesling. i should swing by some time, and see what's up.
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originally posted by georg lauer:
Andi Knauss 2011 Altenberg R (Merlot, Zweigelt, Lemberger).
Drinky, cool and elegant. Made even watching the Super Bowl bearable.
you will dig the 12s. trust me.
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georg lauer
georg lauer
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by georg lauer:
Andi Knauss 2011 Altenberg R (Merlot, Zweigelt, Lemberger).
Drinky, cool and elegant. Made even watching the Super Bowl bearable.
you will dig the 12s. trust me.
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I have no doubt
the 12s in the G and S versions are already in heavy use
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originally posted by georg lauer:
the 12s in the G and S versions are already in heavy use
it's the 'r's where the real surprise lies.
and trust me. i was fucking surprised!
i just hope teh germinz will buy some of them.
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Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Home pageoriginally posted by fatboy:
unterjesingen. i think, as we approach armageddon, that the terroir is promising.originally posted by georg lauer:
and wheretf is that winery in Tue?
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Monday: The scratchy tannins are fading a little, and the minerally red fruit aromas are more forward. Last glass will be on Wednesday.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Two days later: Nose is even more beautiful, more complex, and that little vinyl note is gone. However the palate now has a scratchy, grippy feel and those floral/fruity flavors are mixed with road tar (which makes them more intriguing than joyful). I think I'm going to put the rest back in the fridge and try again on Sunday.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Mascarello 1995 Barolo Riserva "Monprivato Ca d'Morissio" - double-decanted 8 hours ahead, silky texture; minerally red-fruit aromas complicated by something maybe like peach?; complex flavors of rose, raspberry, sweet orange, clay, and just a faint hit of vinyl. Very satisfactory. Put the cork back in and will drink the rest tomorrow or Thursday.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
The last glass tonight. The wine is still a smidgen taut but the scratchy feel and tarry flavors are nearly gone, and the complicating flavor is back to mingle with the (clearer) red fruit.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Monday: The scratchy tannins are fading a little, and the minerally red fruit aromas are more forward. Last glass will be on Wednesday.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Two days later: Nose is even more beautiful, more complex, and that little vinyl note is gone. However the palate now has a scratchy, grippy feel and those floral/fruity flavors are mixed with road tar (which makes them more intriguing than joyful). I think I'm going to put the rest back in the fridge and try again on Sunday.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Mascarello 1995 Barolo Riserva "Monprivato Ca d'Morissio" - double-decanted 8 hours ahead, silky texture; minerally red-fruit aromas complicated by something maybe like peach?; complex flavors of rose, raspberry, sweet orange, clay, and just a faint hit of vinyl. Very satisfactory. Put the cork back in and will drink the rest tomorrow or Thursday.
Note to self: Open the next bottle a week ahead of time. (Right.)
Of course, one glass was not going to be enough so I tried pulling the cork on Dom. des Relagnes 2003 Chateauneuf-du-Pape "Petits Pieds d'Armand" but it pulled back - blatantly corked, so bad it was DNPIM.
Rinse that glass out thoroughly and reach for Guignier 2010 Moulin-a-Vent "La Petite Oseille", which has a continental shelf of sediment in the bottom of the bottle. The wine is pure, clean, unmistakeably gamay, and kinda yawn. I'll try the rest tomorrow (and only report here if something exciting comes of it).
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
2012 Pepiere. Just as good as the other bottles though it wasn't a great match with roast chicken on the second night.
originally posted by Jay Miller:
2012 Pepiere. Just as good as the other bottles though it wasn't a great match with roast chicken on the second night.
It is an awesome match for fried chicken.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
Funny, we opened a Pepiere 2012 last night, too. Good with onion-cheese focaccia then and, tonight, roasted salmon marinaded in ginger dressing and soy with mashed potatoes.
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last night:
2013 andi knauss trollinger "without all" schwäbische landwein - the greatest trollinger ever. ten and a half degrees of unsulfured, unchaptalized awesomeness. if you can drink this without smiling you have no soul. it's so good that it has, of course, been denied the a.p.
2011 andi knauss brut zero, württemberg - more please!
2012 andi knauss riesling "s" württemberg. zippy, racy, poised. crunchy. medium-plus-plus.
2011 marco zani nosiola, dolomiti - all the wine is all for me.
2010 marco zani mercuria, dolomiti - who put imaginary hipster margaux from the mid 80s in my glass?
i am holed up on the swiss border and the stash in my overnight bag is exhausted. i have been told tonight is "austrian red night."
flowers are unnecessary. please, just give generously to a charity of your choice.
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2013 andi knauss trollinger "without all" schwäbische landwein - the greatest trollinger ever. ten and a half degrees of unsulfured, unchaptalized awesomeness. if you can drink this without smiling you have no soul. it's so good that it has, of course, been denied the a.p.
2011 andi knauss brut zero, württemberg - more please!
2012 andi knauss riesling "s" württemberg. zippy, racy, poised. crunchy. medium-plus-plus.
2011 marco zani nosiola, dolomiti - all the wine is all for me.
2010 marco zani mercuria, dolomiti - who put imaginary hipster margaux from the mid 80s in my glass?
i am holed up on the swiss border and the stash in my overnight bag is exhausted. i have been told tonight is "austrian red night."
flowers are unnecessary. please, just give generously to a charity of your choice.
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