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66 poujeaux (theil) - the dotster and the monkey will understand.
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What did you drink tonight?
- Thread starter Kay Bixler
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Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
The 2012 regular Pepiere Muscadet we opened the other night didn't even get really interesting until the third day.
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
There's a white version of this that's great qpr too.
scottreiner
scott reiner
Erbaluce!
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
Yes. Not sure it's 100% erbaluce but it's a nice wine
scottreiner
scott reiner
According to the Rosenthal website it is 100%.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
2012 Zilliken Rausch Auslese
Wow! Electric! Grapefruit, crystallized pineapple, all sorts of wild flavors. Long finish that keeps changing though growing subtler as it progresses. Will benefit from a fair amount of time but quite good now. I owe John G for this one as I bought it based on his review.
Served with a Valentines Day dinner of:
Seared Foie Gras in a blackberry puree heart
Deviled Duck Eggs on a bed of salmon caviar
Baked sea bass with miso, roasted asparagus wrapped in culatello, jasmine rice with panang
Valrhona Hot Chocolate with a piped Chantilly Cream heart
Wow! Electric! Grapefruit, crystallized pineapple, all sorts of wild flavors. Long finish that keeps changing though growing subtler as it progresses. Will benefit from a fair amount of time but quite good now. I owe John G for this one as I bought it based on his review.
Served with a Valentines Day dinner of:
Seared Foie Gras in a blackberry puree heart
Deviled Duck Eggs on a bed of salmon caviar
Baked sea bass with miso, roasted asparagus wrapped in culatello, jasmine rice with panang
Valrhona Hot Chocolate with a piped Chantilly Cream heart
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Wow, no half measures.
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Jay, I liked the Spatlese even more a year ago, whatever that means, which is probably not much, given that I also preferred it to the "auction" Spatlese that day. OK, I take that back; it probably does mean it doesn't suck.
It is also possible that the Auslese shows more puppy stuff today.
It is also possible that the Auslese shows more puppy stuff today.
2012 Broc Vine Starr zinfandel. Glou-glou zinfandel and a completely unique expression of the grape. Savory and herbal with tangy red fruits. A blend from Buck Hill in Russian River and Arrowhead in Sonoma Valley.
2012 Hobo Dry Creek Valley zinfandel. Different from the Broc, but still not the jammy, disgusting style of zinfandel. I'd call Kenny's rendition more claret-style. Like the old Storybook Mountain zinfandels, if you will. Broader fruit profile with some spicy brambly notes. A blend of five vineyards in Dry Creek.
If you haven't tried either Chris or Kenny's wines yet, you're making a mistake.
2012 Hobo Dry Creek Valley zinfandel. Different from the Broc, but still not the jammy, disgusting style of zinfandel. I'd call Kenny's rendition more claret-style. Like the old Storybook Mountain zinfandels, if you will. Broader fruit profile with some spicy brambly notes. A blend of five vineyards in Dry Creek.
If you haven't tried either Chris or Kenny's wines yet, you're making a mistake.
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
the broc vine starr is delicous wine indeed.
its been mentioned before but there is a lot of interesting wine being made in California right now. years from now we could look back on this time frame as a significant era in california.
i dont know how long i will keep buying wine in large quantities to cellar but right now im buying from several of these newer producers and hope im rewarded for cellaring them.
its been mentioned before but there is a lot of interesting wine being made in California right now. years from now we could look back on this time frame as a significant era in california.
i dont know how long i will keep buying wine in large quantities to cellar but right now im buying from several of these newer producers and hope im rewarded for cellaring them.
I don't really buy Broc to cellar. Hobo and Ghostwriter, some of the wines I'll cellar for a bit, sort fo the same way I feel about Steve's (newer) wines in terms of aging. I've made the Rhys gamble and bought some Ceritas, Arnot-Roberts, and Salinia.
I do think this is a significant moment in what is to come.
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
What's your general impression of Ceritas?
Florida Jim
Florida Jim
If I may . . .
Too early to speak with confidence.
Impressions:
Chards seem to have personality but also a lot of sulphur; time and air should be helpful.
Pinots are made from good sources and show a lot of structure early on, albeit pretty focused and singular. I am guessing mid- term aging in bottle will give us a better idea.
The winemaker is experienced in both old and new world styles, chooses the former if circumstances allow, has a sense of experimentation that seems to serve him well and is his own man. I am told he can be prickly but I worked in the same winery with him for a year and his approach and imagination fascinate me.
Pricey but worth watching.
Best, Jim
Steve Edmunds
Steve Edmunds
I sure don't think of Rhys as a gamble. Those guys are carving their wines out of solid rock.
Florida Jim
Florida Jim
I have had good luck from the ''08 vintage forward with the pinots.
The 2010 horseshoe Vnyd. Syrah is remarkable.
And recent barrel tastes of reds, unpredictable as they are, were pretty compelling.
I know little of the chards.
Best, Jim
I have found the Chardonnay more consistently impressive. I liked 09 Skyline fine, especially in terms of weight and texture, but ultimately thought it lacked depth and complexity. Perhaps time will add those? I have consistently found Alpine too ripe, with a dominant cola note that puts me off, including a recent 2006. My best results have been with the early vintages of Home and Family Farm. Those give me hope.