What did you drink tonight?

Not sure about the (much) larger universe of Pinot Gris, but this was very impressive from barrel. I suppose he's one of those growers with a reality distortion field in his cellar - the wines are always very persuasive during visits. I still have a few bottles.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Mourre du Tendre, Cotes de Rhone, Vielle Vignes, 2005 is still incredibly young. Much better the second day. We've been drinking up our 00s and 01s as well as Cdps from then and 1999. I'll keep my hands off this for another couple of years and will check in on the CdP, then. I once tasted a 15 year old version of the 1995 Cotes de Rhone Vielles Vignes at the domaine. I think these may outlast better known names in the area.
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We just had the 99 CnP Tradition. Too young - in a world of maturity.
 
originally posted by Yixin:
one of those growers with a reality distortion field in his cellar
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Good term. I've run into that a lot, sometimes setting me up for later disappointments. Sometimes the whole of France feels like a reality distortion field (reality being whatever everyday life is back home).
 
1997 Martin Müllen Riesling Spätlese Halbtrocken "Kröver Paradies" was fresh, lively and light on the tongue. My son got blackberry in the nose, which hit me like a freight train after he mentioned it (oh, for the olfactory sensitivity of a 9 year old). Really lovely with late summer BBQ ribs.

Mark Lipton
 
1995 Paul Garaudet Meursault Vieille Vigne

I was in the mood for an older Chardonnay to accompany a quick dinner of cold fried chicken, so I pulled a few that I wasn't sure would still be alive hoping to get one that was drinkable. This turned out to be a pleasant surprise, and a fine match with the chicken

I'm tolerant of some oxidation in older Burgundies. Actually, I relish the combination of nuttiness, butterscotch and caramel that oxidation in the aging process can produce as Chardonnay as long as there is some freshness and acidity to join them and there is no maderization.

This wine delivered, lots of butterscotch but a little lemony freshness and a refreshing hit of acidity on the finish, it isn't a paragon of complexity, but a very satisfying 19 year old village wine.
 
2008 Hofberg Spatlese, 8.0% abv; lush without being at all heavy or tiresome.beginning to show some secondary complexity; with Adam's typical precision. no rush on these, but certainly pleasant on a summer night with some mildly spicy (via arbols) RG rio zappes and cold roast chicken.
 
CRB Pinot d'Aunis 2013 - corked.

Truchard Roussanne 2010 - took awhile to come around but broad palate of melon and fruits, rich but nice acidity. Won't age much longer. Doesn't hold a candle to Jean Paul Brun's Roussannne, but that's no surprise.
 
1989 Hans Kramp Ayler Kupp Saar Riesling Kabinett Trocken 9.3%, great nose, plenty of minerality, jasmine and terpenes. Salivation-inducing citric acidity, smokiness, excellent weight and structure. Quite dry, closer to Dr. Caligari's kabinetts than today's versions. Due to the storage involved (see fascinating story), it tasted almost primary; without that mildly wizened shabbiness of conventionally stored wine, there is almost a feeling of suspended reality.

It's constricting to think that Chambers is still offering these Kramps at a price where the carrying costs alone ensure that you're being paid to buy it.
 
After a 2010 Keller Gelber Muskateller Smaragd failed to show what this ancient grape is capable of (or perhaps this is it), a 2002 Alzinger Loibner Loibenberg Riesling Smaragd started off discreet, almost opulent, but with great acidity putting everything exquisitely in balance. In the middle of dinner, analytic posture safely behind, like shoes at the entrance to a Japanese home, the boy did that somersault into the coveted ether of entire satisfaction. Yah, beetch, Alzinger is da bomb!
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
1989 Hans Kramp Ayler Kupp Saar Riesling Kabinett Trocken 9.3%, great nose, plenty of minerality, jasmine and terpenes. Salivation-inducing citric acidity, smokiness, excellent weight and structure. Quite dry, closer to Dr. Caligari's kabinetts than today's versions. Due to the storage involved (see fascinating story), it tasted almost primary; without that mildly wizened shabbiness of conventionally stored wine, there is almost a feeling of suspended reality.

It's constricting to think that Chambers is still offering these Kramps at a price where the carrying costs alone ensure that you're being paid to buy it.
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I bought a few of each and have been underwhelmed. I wonder if there's a lot of bottle variation?
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
1989 Hans Kramp Ayler Kupp Saar Riesling Kabinett Trocken 9.3%, great nose, plenty of minerality, jasmine and terpenes. Salivation-inducing citric acidity, smokiness, excellent weight and structure. Quite dry, closer to Dr. Caligari's kabinetts than today's versions. Due to the storage involved (see fascinating story), it tasted almost primary; without that mildly wizened shabbiness of conventionally stored wine, there is almost a feeling of suspended reality.

It's constricting to think that Chambers is still offering these Kramps at a price where the carrying costs alone ensure that you're being paid to buy it.
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I bought a few of each and have been underwhelmed. I wonder if there's a lot of bottle variation?
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I've opened two Spätleses, one Kabinett, and one Cooper's Wine. Liked the Kabinett by far the most. The Cooper's Wine was indeed underwhelming. The two Spätleses were good, but a bit overterpenated.
 
Actually, an older German friend of mine smirked when I brought one in to the byob he works at. Said his grand father used to drink that producer. Rolled his eyes and walked away.

I've just been disappointed with these and wondered why no one posted about them here.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
Actually, an older German friend of mine smirked when I brought one in to the byob he works at. Said his grand father used to drink that producer. Rolled his eyes and walked away.

I've just been disappointed with these and wondered why no one posted about them here.
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Sorry to hear about these wines. I bought 3 bottles but haven't opened any yet.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
Actually, an older German friend of mine smirked when I brought one in to the byob he works at. Said his grand father used to drink that producer. Rolled his eyes and walked away.

I've just been disappointed with these and wondered why no one posted about them here.
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Sorry to hear about these wines. I bought 3 bottles but haven't opened any yet.
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I looked at them but (apparently fortunately) was in one of my short "I'm not buying wine!" phases when they came out.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
Actually, an older German friend of mine smirked when I brought one in to the byob he works at. Said his grand father used to drink that producer. Rolled his eyes and walked away.

I've just been disappointed with these and wondered why no one posted about them here.
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Sorry to hear about these wines. I bought 3 bottles but haven't opened any yet.
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I looked at them but (apparently fortunately) was in one of my short "I'm not buying wine!" phases when they came out.
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I have an obvious bias since I found them and wrote the sordid tale that Oswaldo linked to so I apologize for the spam, but I've had more good experiences with the wines than poor. Certainly there's some bottle variation and I've had both horrendously corked bottles and ones with a persistent non-TCA mustiness. Good examples of both the Kabinett Trocken and the Spätlese have developed nicely over a few nights open, though. They're not the most wildly complex and intricate Rieslings in the world, but they're also not priced like those that are.
 
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