Core Disorderly Discussion: TN's from Therapy

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Brad Kane

Brad Kane
As many of us know, years of wonderful and invaluable tasting notes, brilliant prose and witty banter were lost at our former home on Wine Therapy. Just wanted to gauge disorderly feelings on perhaps trying to reclaim at least the tasting note history here by having folks repost tasting notes they had previously posted there over the years, here? Perhaps we can code them in the title like RTN: with whatever title we originally used, with RTN standing for reclaimed tasting note and then adding the original post date at the top of the message body? Or, should we just blaze a new trail here?

Care to discuss?
 
I feel it happens more often when the speaker (speller?) deems the singular form to be less lexical than your average noun. For instance: TN's, CD's, 1960's. There seems to be a constraint ranking numerical and acronymic representations as less lexical than other nouns. However, I also frequently notice a higher proportion of fully lexical items ending in light syllables pluralized with an apostrophe than those ending in heavy syllables: cars but auto's; chairs but sofa's.
 
Don't get me started on apostrophe abuse.

Kane just does it to bug us, though, I'm fairly sure of that. Because he knows it teases.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Care to discuss?
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Sounds like a lot of effort, not to mention clutter. Two alternatives: 1. Get the Politburo to recode the search function, giving it the capability of searching Therapy as well as this site; 2. Should the future of Therapy be an issue, get someone to transfer the database to another medium such as an external hard drive, which is then relocated to Disorderly Central (aka Datamantic).

Since we lost most of the Therapy archive to the now-infamous d/b wipe incident, there would be only limited value in reclaiming it. There is SFJoe's 2007 Loire report, but you get the idea.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:

Sounds like a lot of effort, not to mention clutter.
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Not so much effort. Copy/paste. I have all my posts saved and I know a bunch of other folks here do as well.
 
originally posted by Susannah:
NWR: Why do people pluralize with apostrophes?
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Because they are idiots? At least that's my impression whenever I see it (all the time) over at ebob.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:

Care to discuss?
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Sounds like a lot of effort, not to mention clutter. Two alternatives: 1. Get the Politburo to recode the search function, giving it the capability of searching Therapy as well as this site; 2. Should the future of Therapy be an issue, get someone to transfer the database to another medium such as an external hard drive, which is then relocated to Disorderly Central (aka Datamantic).

Since we lost most of the Therapy archive to the now-infamous d/b wipe incident, there would be only limited value in reclaiming it. There is SFJoe's 2007 Loire report, but you get the idea.

Mark Lipton
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Um, us cutting and pasting seems like a lot of effort, but demanding of the Politburo that they recode the search function is a piece of cake? Because they've been so responsive to our concerns so far?
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:

Um, us cutting and pasting seems like a lot of effort, but demanding of the Politburo that they recode the search function is a piece of cake? Because they've been so responsive to our concerns so far?
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C&P would be required of everyone who's posted a note over there, or would require the selfless volunteering of someone's time to do it for them. Yes, recoding the search function might be a lot of work, but (having not seen the code) I would guess that it could be done with a fairly minor tweak to existing code (if a physical data swap is performed). Once done, it would be a permanent and comprehensive solution. And I make no demands of anyone; I'm merely tossing out ideas. Brad did ask for such IIRC.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Chris Coad:

Um, us cutting and pasting seems like a lot of effort, but demanding of the Politburo that they recode the search function is a piece of cake? Because they've been so responsive to our concerns so far?
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C&P would be required of everyone who's posted a note over there, or would require the selfless volunteering of someone's time to do it for them. Yes, recoding the search function might be a lot of work, but (having not seen the code) I would guess that it could be done with a fairly minor tweak to existing code (if a physical data swap is performed). Once done, it would be a permanent and comprehensive solution. And I make no demands of anyone; I'm merely tossing out ideas. Brad did ask for such IIRC.

Mark Lipton
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If that happens before we get a Preview Function, I'm moving back to Strat's Place.

I didn't mean to sound dismissive, but I don't see how someone's selfless volunteering could bring back notes that are simply gone. Plus, the search function on the ghost of therapy doesn't work anymore, even for the feeble few months of notes that still remain online there after the Serge-down. I would suspect the database isn't in proper working order, although that's certainly not my area of expertise. I know Robert has the keys and won't use them, I don't think anyone else has under-the-hood access, hence the need for the move here. Or at least that's my understanding from the scraps and rumors that have trickled down.
 
What Chris said.

In brief, anything you want from therapy should be salvaged to your computer ASAP. You can figure out what to do with it at your leisure thereafter.

But the notion of searching over there as if there will be stability or continuity is laughable. If it weren't so sad.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
What Chris said.

In brief, anything you want from therapy should be salvaged to your computer ASAP. You can figure out what to do with it at your leisure thereafter.

But the notion of searching over there as if there will be stability or continuity is laughable. If it weren't so sad.
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Just to give you my perspective, what's being discussed here is really a database migration, albeit one of comparatively small scale. I agree that to rely on the continuing existence of Therapy seems risky at best, hence the suggestion of physical data transfer. Your solution amounts to the same thing, albeit in piecemeal fashion. Perhaps it's the old coder in me that wants to automate any process that otherwise involves repetitive manual actions.

Chris: The search function of Therapy works for me still. Got an URL?

Mark Lipton
 
Does it really? I've tried a few times over the last month or two and I get no hits on anything I search for.

Let me go try again...
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Does it really? I've tried a few times over the last month or two and I get no hits on anything I search for.

Let me go try again...
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Well, f'rinstance, searching for "boatloads" over there turns up 4 threads, two by you (BoCC 12: Hopped Up on Goofballs, Sneak Preview/Public Service), one by Victor (The next best seller) and one by Hoke (Polyester and Cold Duck). What's more, Firefox's search function tells me that all 4 threads do in fact contain the term "boatloads," but I unwilling to do the requisite negative control.

Mark Lipton
 
See, something's strange. When I search for 'Huet,' for example, it just hangs for a good three or four minutes, then finally comes back with a blank results page. A search for 'the' does the same. Maybe it doesn't like Safari.
 
You need to be logged in to get searches to work. Just tried it both ways, and when I'm not logged in I get nothing. When logged in, I get hits.

I'm running Firefox 3.0.1 on RedHat, BTW, but I don't think there are browser issues here.
 
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