Terroir a myth?

[SFJoe]

originally posted by GarethB:

This was really interesting terroir myth busting too..
The Cube Project

Maybe myth busting about the distinctiveness of certain recently planted places in the New World.

It is part of the slipperiness of the concept, but I think many of my favorite European growers would find the notion of using the same clone (strike one) in very different vineyards (strike two) with different climates (strike three) inappropriate. Allowing the vine to adapt to the place is part of the point. But it requires a longer-term effort than the aforementioned new plantations in the New World can possibly have put together.

 

[Jeff Connell]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
WHY DO THEY ONLY MAKE MADEIRA IN MADEIRA?????

Because in Champagne they can only make Champagne.

 

[Christian Miller (CMM)]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
WHY DO THEY ONLY MAKE MADEIRA IN MADEIRA?????

St. Amant in Lodi makes a very nice madeira-style wine from Bastardo, but thanks to peculiarities of our label laws, they have to call it tawny port.

Oh, that's hilarious. Thanks for the information.

You recommend giving it a try?

Absolutely. Several vintages are blended together, aged in neutral barrels and baked in a shed for a number of years. It develops a distinctive roasted brown sugar, plum pudding, and walnutty character. Fun stuff!

 

[Unknown]

""With this research we aimed to answer the following question: beyond taste and marketing, what explains the success of a vineyard?" said Valéry Michaux. The research identified three main factors essential to the success of a wine-growing area, beyond the organoleptic quality of the wine itself."

if we ignore teh quality of teh hooch, and how it tastes, then i think she is right. terroir is a myth.

fb.

 

[MarkS]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
WHY DO THEY ONLY MAKE MADEIRA IN MADEIRA?????

Uh, 'cuz not too many islands have purposely had their forestland burnt so crops could be grown instead?

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by fatboy:
""With this research we aimed to answer the following question: beyond taste and marketing, what explains the success of a vineyard?" said Valéry Michaux. The research identified three main factors essential to the success of a wine-growing area, beyond the organoleptic quality of the wine itself."

if we ignore teh quality of teh hooch, and how it tastes, then i think she is right. terroir is a myth.

fb.

Thank you, fb. I also found the lady's resume online; she has degrees and honors in marketing and management, none in agriculture.

 

[Keith Levenberg]

Dammit, why can't some of those experts concentrated around Romanee-Conti and La Tache try making some Echezeaux or something?

 

[Peter Creasey]

Or maybe they can consult in Lanquedoc!

. . . . Pete

 

[Jeff Grossman]

The concentration of smart people in Cambridge, MA and New Haven, CT have certainly produced wonderful wines.

((Is the horse dead yet?))

 

[Sharon Bowman]

"Qu'est-ce que je peux faire ? J'sais pas quoi faire..."

-Anna Karina, Pierrot le fou

We've got to find better stuff to yammer about.

 

[Lou Kessler]

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
"Qu'est-ce que peux faire ? J'sais pas quoi faire..."

-Anna Karina, Pierrot le fou

We've got to find better stuff to yammer about.

OK, do you think War & Peace would sell better in the USA if it was translated first into French? Yammer that out.

 

[Unknown]

originally posted by Lou Kessler:

OK, do you think War & Peace would sell better in the USA if it was translated first into French? Yammer that out.

fify.

fb.

 

[BJ]

snooze

 

[Unknown]

originally posted by BJ:
snooze

war and peace? or teh stupid godard flick?

fb.

 

[Sharon Bowman]

originally posted by fatboy:
war and peace? or teh stupid godard flick?

fb.

Oh, come now, not a fan of Anna Karina?

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

Pete, in case you're wondering about all the inside jokes, Anna Karina played the role of Anna Karenina in the Godard version of War & Peace.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Pete, in case you're wondering about all the inside jokes, Anna Karina played the role of Anna Karenina in the Godard version of War & Peace.

Oh, this'll straighten things out just fine. And I guess Anna Karenin acted in Une Femme est une Femme?

 

[VLM]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Pete, in case you're wondering about all the inside jokes, Anna Karina played the role of Anna Karenina in the Godard version of War & Peace.

I didn't get any of this. I have no idea what Godard movie they're talking about and couldn't read War and Peace.

 

[SFJoe]

originally posted by VLM:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Pete, in case you're wondering about all the inside jokes, Anna Karina played the role of Anna Karenina in the Godard version of War & Peace.

I didn't get any of this. I have no idea what Godard movie they're talking about and couldn't read War and Peace.

Don'tcha hate all the inside jokes on Wine disorder?

 

[Sharon Bowman]

I think we need a thread about books we really loved but could never finish. I only got ca. 15 pages into Ulysses, while still thinking it was the best thing in the whole wide world.