A couple Crozes, north and south; Rule of 15 applied

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98 Graillot Guiraude The rule definitely did NOT work out on this one; drying, over the hill; disconcerting. VLM will be most pleased.

01 Cornu (Pavillon-Mercurol) As good as the Graillot was bad, lush, bacon-y, suggestive of VA sauvage. Much more kinship to a Cote Rotie than anything.

I pretty much avoid all southern Crozes at this point, and this is a good demonstration - if the Guiraude can't handle it, what can?
 
Perhaps the lesson should be that the Rule of 15 shouldn't be applied to Southern Crozes? Is it a fault that the Guiraude was better earlier on?

Mark Lipton
 
I recall visiting Graillot ca. 2000 and he proudly showed how his 1990 was doing at 10 years. With the exception of Jaboulet Thalabert and maybe a couple of others, Crozes is not a wine to age a long time (and I don't know what can be said about Thalabert since the change of ownership). Note: this is one of the ways that good St-Jo distinguishes itself from Crozes.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by robert ames:
rule of 15? drink before 15 years old?
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BJ has a "Rule of 15": not to drink any Rhone wine until it's at least 15 years old.
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I thought this was only Northern Rhone. If he applied it to CdRs, or even many if not most Vacqueyras, Gigondas and Cairanne, he would have a lot of very old wine.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
I believe it is any top quality Northern Rhone wine, or some such.
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Zachary's been paying attention.

The Rule applies to quality northern Rhones only.

Earlier in the thread we affirmed that the Rule applied only to northern Crozes, not the faux Crozes of the southern plains.
 
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