more premoxed chenin.

originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
My sampling of several vintages of Clos Baudoin from Chidaine indicates it will be quite a few years before it becomes seriously age-worthy again.

and your reason(s) for this observation?

I'm not Tristan, but I used to taste Chidaine every year when he was with Dressner. The vineyard needed A LOT of work to get healthy and that takes a while. I found the wines to be "loose", for lack of a better word, especially when compared to wines that are meant for aging like Foreau and Huet. Personally, I don't think that wines that only have a short life-span are problematic and I think that Francois will eventually make one of the 2 or 3 best Vouvrays out of this plot if he isn't already.

I am Tristan, but the above says it better than I could have. I have tried the '05, '07, '08 and '10 Clos Baudoins and have found them delicious but not quite profound. Loose is a an appropriate adjective. Thin wouldn't be. Refreshing would be a positive take. The best efforts from Poniatowski's wine makers could be very very good, long lived, profound. I suspect Chidaine will get there.
 
2004 les tuffeaux is drinking very well as i type this.

perhaps, the monkey is correct that 05 les bournais was never meant for aging. i guess i'm suprised 10 year old chenin from a single site would show the charateristics it did the other night.

anyway, this tuffeaux is really singing.
 
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