wine like this or wine like that

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
wine like this or wine like thatArticle in the NYTimes. Raj Parr, Robert Parker, IPOB, WA, Shafer, Sea Smoke, everything but the kitchen sink. Puff piece.
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not a puff piece. actually a pretty interesting read. bruce is a good writer.
 
I'm story of surprised that the Times is publishing a story on this. I doubt many of its readers were aware of the controversy and even of those few who are, how many of those give a damn? This may seem old hat here, but for 90% of this article's readers it's probably completely beneath their radars and they will be happy if it remains that way.
 
Not the first long-form wine piece in the NYT mag. They ran a true puff piece on Garagiste a few years ago, which apparently was so successful driving customers over there that they've hardly offered any decent wine since.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Robert: yet it's all old news here and I think Proffy-Poo Jonathan is right that the public at large is unaware.
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perhaps the fact that what is old news here is being told to the unwashed masses is in fact news.
 
Have to admit, Parker's rhetoric is really pretty hysterical. His over the top bloviation always seemed out of place in a wine review but for trash talking he has got definite talent.
 
Really, Parker needs a rhetoric coach. If he's being interviewed by the NYT for a story on AFWE, his position can't be that it's already all over. He needs to learn the rhetoric of resigned wisdom: "I say what I believe as I always have. And it is what I have always believed. The world will go where it goes and I can't help that. I evaluate as I have. Others will do what they have to do." This position is perfectly commensurable with also feeling one is objectively right. Bossuet, after all, perfected it. I'm sure if Parker practiced saying it over and over again, he could manage it, and it would do him much better.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Really, Parker needs a rhetoric coach. If he's being interviewed by the NYT for a story on AFWE, his position can't be that it's already all over. He needs to learn the rhetoric of resigned wisdom: "I say what I believe as I always have. And it is what I have always believed. The world will go where it goes and I can't help that. I evaluate as I have. Others will do what they have to do." This position is perfectly commensurable with also feeling one is objectively right. Bossuet, after all, perfected it. I'm sure if Parker practiced saying it over and over again, he could manage it, and it would do him much better.
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Parker is no Bossuet.

"You ain't no Cary Grant. But then again, who is?" -Luna
 
Raj Parr just won a James Beard award for his contribution as a beverage professional. It seems reasonable that a national news outlet might be interested in what that contribution has been.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Really, Parker needs a rhetoric coach. If he's being interviewed by the NYT for a story on AFWE, his position can't be that it's already all over. He needs to learn the rhetoric of resigned wisdom: "I say what I believe as I always have. And it is what I have always believed. The world will go where it goes and I can't help that. I evaluate as I have. Others will do what they have to do." This position is perfectly commensurable with also feeling one is objectively right. Bossuet, after all, perfected it. I'm sure if Parker practiced saying it over and over again, he could manage it, and it would do him much better.
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Parker is no Bossuet.

"You ain't no Cary Grant. But then again, who is?" -Luna
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I admit that I only read Bossuet in translation and that was back in the mid 70s for my thesis. He seemed sort of tedious to me. That may have been the translation. He did have an impressive airy confidence that Parker would do well to imitate, even if he doesn't share it.
 
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