Cheese Souffle’ Suissesse w/wine

originally posted by kirk wallace:
Michel Roux of la Gavroche? (Or his father and uncle, more accurately. )
Escoffier -> Richard Olney -> Lydie Marshall
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
this is likely more structure than ooze
On a quick study, you double the flour in the souffle base, bake it, take it out, drench in cream and cheese, and return to the oven to gratinate. The extra flour somehow assures it will rise again. (Thanks, Harold McGee.)
 
I also would recommend a Chasselas, but please also remember that in the Northern part of the Valais the same grape is referred to as Fendant. I see several on Wine-Searcher in the US.

Very little Swiss wine (1-3% of annual production) is exported.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
Michel Roux of la Gavroche? (Or his father and uncle, more accurately. )
Escoffier -> Richard Olney -> Lydie Marshall

It seems this version uses Parmigano-Reggiano as the only cheese. I wonder why Escoffier put the "Suissesse" tag on it. And sometimes it has a tomato sauce?? Escoffier to Olney

OTOH, the Rouxs (father & uncle and jr.) use swiss cheeses:Le Gavroche Soufflé Suissesse

all very bizarre.

pete, how was the moscato?
 
Kirk, I'm using the good info provided here to try to discourage the idea someone advanced of using a Moscato (which I, like most everyone here, found to be bothersome at best).

The Cheese Souffle’ Suissesse is expected to be awesome...and worthy of the right pairing.

The dinner is down the road.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Escoffier -> Richard Olney -> Lydie Marshall
It seems this version uses Parmigano-Reggiano as the only cheese. I wonder why Escoffier put the "Suissesse" tag on it. And sometimes it has a tomato sauce?? Escoffier to Olney
Harold McGee also mentioned that if you triple the amount of flour you will get "the famous pudding".

And if you 15x the amount of flour you will get... sponge cake.

all very bizarre.
I think this is what happens when you cease to think of souffle as souffle and sponge cake as sponge cake but instead treat them merely as points along some magical Omelette Continuum.
 
originally posted by Eric LeVine:
FendantI also would recommend a Chasselas, but please also remember that in the Northern part of the Valais the same grape is referred to as Fendant. I see several on Wine-Searcher in the US.

Very little Swiss wine (1-3% of annual production) is exported.

Welcome, Eric (Disorderlies, please provide the official welcome!). Pimping your local wines, I see.
 
Jeff, Good question!

The number of bees was stipulated on other wines I've looked out but not on this one.

Googling suggests that bees aren't indicated on this bottling; however, it would likely fall into the 1 bee range, perhaps trending almost toward 2 bees.

I haven't tasted the wine.

All of this is why I'm asking the experts here for any opinions.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Eric LeVine: FendantI also would recommend a Chasselas, but please also remember that in the Northern part of the Valais the same grape is referred to as Fendant. I see several on Wine-Searcher in the US.

Very little Swiss wine (1-3% of annual production) is exported.

Eric,

Sorry I'm slow getting back to reading this thread.

Welcome and thanks!

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

The number of bees was stipulated on other wines I've looked out but not on this one.

Googling suggests that bees aren't indicated on this bottling; however, it would likely fall into the 1 bee range, perhaps trending almost toward 2 bees.

I haven't tasted the wine.

All of this is why I'm asking the experts here for any opinions.
I haven't tasted this one, either. My googling is not definitive: I see that the wine in general is typically made off-dry but this maker does not love that style. However, nothing definitive about this bottling.

I applaud your effort to get a Swiss wine on the table with all the Swiss cheese.
 
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