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Joel Stewart

Joel Stewart
'98 moulin de gardette, cuvee ventabren, gigondas...starts closed, but friendly nonetheless.....smacking tobacco tannin spanking on the finish! (thank you, may i have another?)

color is clear, warm, raspberry red invaded with bricking. rusty iron notes on the inhale, celery and some dark fruit....then old leather, dry earth, sweat and at last dark fruit turns to red. silky and broad in the mouth in that way which only comes from leave it alone. strawberry preserves showing off the longevity of cinsault, add to that sun baked earth, leather shoelaces, beef broth, sluice of more red berry. finally, all is drawn up with a finish of finely ground day old cracked pepper. damn, this is lovely.

'01 domaine schlumberger, kitterle, pinot gris, alsace - (the "ankle breaker", named from the steep slopes of this grand cru vineyard) - off dry, sweet, fat, yet still lithe. candied fruit, marmalade and a clean, dry, tangy finish. very big. with air, the wine broadens in scope on the palate, maybe even loses some of it's initial weight and, finally, a thankful, late entry citric zing makes the last couple of glasses heavenly. a bit much for the mild chinese dishes we were served. i used to like this style of wine. now, i just need someone to serve me an example which in fact doesn't bowl me over.

'06 tissot chardonnay, arbois - tea leaves on the nose, fermented peach. glistening ripeness bound by taut lines. rustic, dry and rounds with air. thrown into the big french chard pool, this one is easily holding it's own and shows individual characters that i like, without being ponderous.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Joel, actually, I think he does several chardonnays; wondering which one, because the oak regimes vary drastically.

hmmm...looking at the btl...i see "arbois, chardonnay, stephane t....13%" etc. but no other defining characters, except in french, the vines are 25+ yrs old...whoopee do.

MarkS...if anything specific, oolong would be close.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Joel, actually, I think he does several chardonnays; wondering which one, because the oak regimes vary drastically.

do tell, Sharon!...(and this may be a case of label differences for exports)

at any rate, this showed little oak as far as i could tell...i would guess some during fermentation, but what do i know?....just liked the expression
 
OK, I looked it up. Tissot recently did a presentation at Les Grains Nobles.

His chardonnay cuves are:

Arbois Chardonnay - argillo-calcareous soil; old oak (10% new)

Arbois La Mailloche Chardonnay - hard, argillaceous soil; 30% new oak

Arbois Les Graviers Chardonnay - very calcareous soil, 30% new oak

Ctes du Jura En Barberon Chardonnay - more southerly vines, argillaceous soil with layer of chalk atop, no notes on levage; I've had this in its 2004 rendition recently, and it came across as v. oaky, though.

Arbois Le Clos de la Tour de Curon Chardonnay - old vines w. tiny yield (15-20 hl/ha); no notes on levage

Arbois Cuve du Jubile Chardonnay - tank-fermented, aged in foudres

I also recently tasted (with Mark Lipton of here) an excellent 2006 Ctes du Jura Les Argiles du Lias. I think for many of the "higher" cuves, alcohol is quite high; it was a little hot, but still v. elegant.

The En Barberon, in my experience, gets a bit too much oak.

Most frequently seen cuves tend to be La Mailloche and En Barberon.

ETA: Looks like you had the first, though.
 
Oops, no.

Arbois Les Bruyres Chardonnay - vines 35-70 years old, levage 24 mo. on lees in 20% new oak.

Apparently, too, the Jubilee bottling is a mix of Graviers and Bruyres.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
OK, I looked it up. Tissot recently did a presentation at Les Grains Nobles.

His chardonnay cuves are:

Arbois Chardonnay - argillo-calcareous soil; old oak (10% new)

Arbois La Mailloche Chardonnay - hard, argillaceous soil; 30% new oak

Arbois Les Graviers Chardonnay - very calcareous soil, 30% new oak

Ctes du Jura En Barberon Chardonnay - more southerly vines, argillaceous soil with layer of chalk atop, no notes on levage; I've had this in its 2004 rendition recently, and it came across as v. oaky, though.

Arbois Le Clos de la Tour de Curon Chardonnay - old vines w. tiny yield (15-20 hl/ha); no notes on levage

Arbois Cuve du Jubile Chardonnay - tank-fermented, aged in foudres

I also recently tasted (with Mark Lipton of here) an excellent 2006 Ctes du Jura Les Argiles du Lias. I think for many of the "higher" cuves, alcohol is quite high; it was a little hot, but still v. elegant.

The En Barberon, in my experience, gets a bit too much oak.

Most frequently seen cuves tend to be La Mailloche and En Barberon.

ETA: Looks like you had the first, though.

thanks for that info Sharon.....now i see what you mean...and yes, seems it was the first one which i had......and i don't think it will be the last either.
 
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