CWD: 2005 Roilette Tardive

VLM

VLM
Holy crap, this has really come into its own. I wish I had been patient as I only have 3-4 bottles left out of a case, but at least I have some mags. The tannins have subsided, but the wine is still nicely framed. Pinote type notes of sous bois with tangy red fruits wrapped around a mineral spine. Refreshing and lively still on the palate which tapers to a long finish that shows a bit of bottle sweetness. A great wine from a great site.

This is the point of the wine cellar.
 
750 or 1.5? I have a single mag I've been holding onto and am curious to know if it's time to open it.
 
originally posted by JasonA:
750 or 1.5? I have a single mag I've been holding onto and am curious to know if it's time to open it.

The last mag I had was a few years ago and it was till tight. This was ready, but I don't think the window is closing nay time soon. We did decant, BTW.

If you had an occasion in the next year that called for it, I wouldn't hesitate, but it's not going to get worse for another year or five in the cellar in that size.
 
Did you not taste from the mag a year ago in NY? I guess you had other things to worry about, as we all did. But it was undrinkably young.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Did you not taste from the mag a year ago in NY? I guess you had other things to worry about, as we all did. But it was undrinkably young.

I have no clear memory of what I had to drink that evening. This 750 was in a nice place. I'll try a mag sometime this Fall to see.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
Did you not taste from the mag a year ago in NY? I guess you had other things to worry about, as we all did. But it was undrinkably young.

I have no clear memory of what I had to drink that evening. This 750 was in a nice place. I'll try a mag sometime this Fall to see.

the 05 that really impresses these days is Devisgnes (both #1 and the mysterious #2 from chambers)

i underline *impresses*, because the wine(s) is extremely young, and yet manages to obliterate other notable 05s from the region that i otherwise adore.

i guess that puts the wine at the very beginning of some kind of plateau
 
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
Did you not taste from the mag a year ago in NY? I guess you had other things to worry about, as we all did. But it was undrinkably young.

I have no clear memory of what I had to drink that evening. This 750 was in a nice place. I'll try a mag sometime this Fall to see.

the 05 that really impresses these days is Devisgnes (both #1 and the mysterious #2 from chambers)

i underline *impresses*, because the wine(s) is extremely young, and yet manages to obliterate other notable 05s from the region that i otherwise adore.

i guess that puts the wine at the very beginning of some kind of plateau

The last Desvignes Javernierres I had was very impressive, but it was too youthfully tough for me in a way that my Roilette Tardive was not. Interesting the different experiences.
 
I may not have a sample set large enough to generalize reliably, but the Desvignes wines have seemed to me to be made differently than the Coudert wines, with a firmer, more dominating tannic structure than would be explained by the respective vineyards alone - at least the Javernieres bottling.

Anyone tried an Impenitent recently (not 05, of course).
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I may not have a sample set large enough to generalize reliably, but the Desvignes wines have seemed to me to be made differently than the Coudert wines, with a firmer, more dominating tannic structure than would be explained by the respective vineyards alone - at least the Javernieres bottling.

Anyone tried an Impenitent recently (not 05, of course).

I'm not sure that the winemaking is all that different. Both are Burgundian, more or less, although I'm not totally sure. It may just be the terroir.

You going to post on that CRB côt?
 
I put a small note in the '...Drink Tonight ...' thread and on CT, albeit light on description. I liked it very much. It seems completely ready now, and I'll be looking for reasons to drink some more soon, if you happen to be in the neighborhood.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
Did you not taste from the mag a year ago in NY? I guess you had other things to worry about, as we all did. But it was undrinkably young.

I have no clear memory of what I had to drink that evening. This 750 was in a nice place. I'll try a mag sometime this Fall to see.

Fuck me. Magnum of this on Saturday was undrinkably young. I wouldn't have thought there was such a sharp slope on the curve where a 750 could show in the beginning fo a plateau and a 1.5L so far behind. These were bought at the same time, from the same source, from the same shipment, and stored in exactly the same fashion. The endogeneity problem strikes again, I suppose.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
Did you not taste from the mag a year ago in NY? I guess you had other things to worry about, as we all did. But it was undrinkably young.

I have no clear memory of what I had to drink that evening. This 750 was in a nice place. I'll try a mag sometime this Fall to see.

Fuck me. Magnum of this on Saturday was undrinkably young. I wouldn't have thought there was such a sharp slope on the curve where a 750 could show in the beginning fo a plateau and a 1.5L so far behind. These were bought at the same time, from the same source, from the same shipment, and stored in exactly the same fashion. The endogeneity problem strikes again, I suppose.

Searching this thread for "undrinkably young" is fun. Intentional, I am sure.
 
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