It's October! What are you drinking?
- Thread starter Sharon Bowman
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Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
Shitty beer.
Saina Nieminen
Saina Nieminen
De Dolle Brouwers and 't Ij. We don't get good wine here but at least I can get some good beer.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Day 3 of Ch. de St. Cosme 2010 Gigondas, an unlikely bottle for me but it was a gift. Actually, this is the second of two bottles in the gift. The gifter consulted a wine friend and the friend picked it, perhaps because it was Spec's #2 wine in 2012. But I do not hold the gifter accountable for that.
The first bottle, drunk in Nov 2013, was undistinguished, uninteresting, perfectly salable and characterless. This bottle is better. Cepage is 60% Grenache, 20% Syrah, 18% Mourvedre, 2% Cinsault -- boy, does that Cinsault really make the difference.
Ahem.
It is showing some complexity: there is a dark, earthy element overlaid on the plummy, slightly sweet grenache background. Medium bodied, modestly tannic. Not great, but good.
I sauteed some onions and peppers for it, and served alongside sandwiches of rare lamb, fleur verte, and sundried tomatoes. I've misplaced the Mediterranean, however, so there's only a little vase of blue hydrangea nearby.
The first bottle, drunk in Nov 2013, was undistinguished, uninteresting, perfectly salable and characterless. This bottle is better. Cepage is 60% Grenache, 20% Syrah, 18% Mourvedre, 2% Cinsault -- boy, does that Cinsault really make the difference.
Ahem.
It is showing some complexity: there is a dark, earthy element overlaid on the plummy, slightly sweet grenache background. Medium bodied, modestly tannic. Not great, but good.
I sauteed some onions and peppers for it, and served alongside sandwiches of rare lamb, fleur verte, and sundried tomatoes. I've misplaced the Mediterranean, however, so there's only a little vase of blue hydrangea nearby.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Go, go, vigneron!
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Ahem!
This was consumed within the month of October 2015 and is a perhaps small (toot, toot) argument for the grape.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
But maybe the syrah and roussane help....
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Well, there's 50% more roussanne in the Clos Saron than cinsault in the St Cosme. Of course it helps.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
I was told there would be no math on this board.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
That seems unlikely: you're elbows deep in scientists.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
I know, was joking.
I was a math geek as a kid (go figure, VLM). Stem? Stem of a leek? Of a mushroom?
I was a math geek as a kid (go figure, VLM). Stem? Stem of a leek? Of a mushroom?
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Ahem!
This was consumed within the month of October 2015 and is a perhaps small (toot, toot) argument for the grape.
Oddly enough, I had that very same wine tonight. A big rough-edged at first, really came together with time and air.
Had a nice Chinon blanc, too.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
Comme c'est curieux ....sorry I missed that.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
Without thinking much about it, once I got home, I was drawn to 2007 Sperino Lessona. Turned out kind of perfect for the first genuinely cool evening. A bit young, but sort of nice balance of ripe fruit and dirt and stone. Definitely not integrated, but all playing fairly nicely. A touch hot on the finish, I think, but then again,I don't drink a lot of 13.5% abv wine.
Ken Schramm
Ken Schramm
I spent last weekend with Dr. Patrick McGovern and Scott Klein of the St. Louis Beekeepers, talking ancient wines, mead and honey. We visited some Missouri wine country, which apart from the monastic winemaking that was going on in California is the oldest in the country, and which they advertise as the oldest commercial wine region on the US. There was a huge spectrum of flavors of the Norton varietal wines. The best I tasted was at Hermannhof, which was a Norton/Cab blend that was surprisingly Bordeaux-like. They have a very old and very picturesque cellar, as well. It is curious that there is not more Vitis vinifera being cultivated there.
McGovern is one incredibly worldly and educated man. It is shocking to me that my book has sold more copies than his have. Of the two of us, there's not much question who is the more interesting cat. It says a lot about how formative the homebrewing community has been to American interests and tastes at large.
McGovern is one incredibly worldly and educated man. It is shocking to me that my book has sold more copies than his have. Of the two of us, there's not much question who is the more interesting cat. It says a lot about how formative the homebrewing community has been to American interests and tastes at large.
Very nice glasses of Domaine Montrose viognier 2012 (with shaved vegetable salad, delice de bourgogne cheese and baguette, and foie gras pate appetizers) and Couly-Dutheil cabernet franc 2011 with near perfect cassoulet at Maude's Liquor Bar on West Randolph in Chicago. Roasted Brussels sprouts also outstanding.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
St. Cosme is right up there with Santa Duc as among the Gigondases that give the place a bad name for me. Fortunately, Raspail-Ay and Gour de Chaulé still exist to give it a good name. I'm sure I tasted the 2010 St. Cosme when it first came out. I don't much remember it. The oak program on those wines makes it hard for me to taste anything else. Interesting that it ages into something drinkable.