Jay Miller
Jay Miller
Or any recent experiences at all?
I'm thinking of taking credit for outstanding Premier Cru orders in 2005 Le Mont Demi Sec.
I'm thinking of taking credit for outstanding Premier Cru orders in 2005 Le Mont Demi Sec.
any 2005 huet premox experiences?
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No premox experiences with it. Just note it's a bigger, riper wine than what you're used to. I like it, but it doesn't have the acidic cut you might want and every now and then the alcohol will peek out on the finish. Probably making it sound worse than it is as, again, I like it, but just be aware it was a hot vintage and it's better for sweeties.
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
I have not had the 2005 Le Mont Demi in two years, but back then I thought it was an excellent wine. I had no problem with the alcohol, and while I agree with Brad it is maybe a little rounder than some of the less ripe vintages, frankly I did not think it lacked acidity either. It came off as really young, but who knows what has happened in the interim. Perhaps it is time to open another bottle soon to check in...
robert ames
robert ames
i had my last huet '05 with in the last year and all have been sound.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
Thank you everyone! I didn't lay any down (since I had bought so many 2002s) so I couldn't check myself.
Tangentially, I have been very unhappy with recently samplings of my 2005 Chidaine stash.
There's a cooked or baked fruit character now to the fruit and low acid (as this vintage always displayed), but now very perceptible alcohol.
Most recently this was the Vouvray 'Les Argiles'. The sweeter wines probably did better.
There's a cooked or baked fruit character now to the fruit and low acid (as this vintage always displayed), but now very perceptible alcohol.
Most recently this was the Vouvray 'Les Argiles'. The sweeter wines probably did better.
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
My 05 Les Bournais (sp?) have kind of lost their luster too. last one i had was shot.
Tom Glasgow
Thomas W Glasgow
more likely it's pab gloating, that will teach you to buy from those big producers.
John Donaghue
John Donaghue
Opened a bottle of 05 Petillant towards the end of harvest last year and it was pristine. Absolutely beautiful.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
Lots of discussion about 05 Loire reds recently, and about how unusual the vintage is.
Drinking 2005 Le Mont Sec last night certainly made me realize how unusual this vintage is for Huet as well. A superficial, hand-waving, and symptomatic take may be that this is a transitional vintage relative to global warming - with some of its symptoms more pronounced while others subtle, as well as one that predates a decision to make more dry wines at the Estate.
One thing out of the way - this wine is closed for business, as was Bourg Sec consumed last year. This is the toughest stage for assessing Chenin Sec, and should not be attempted by amateurs at home or at corporate picnics. So any impressions should be taken in appropriate context.
Looking through the thread above while fully realizing that Le Mont Sec was not mentioned specifically, it is important to note that this wine isn't "big" in a sense of alcohol or overt tropical flavors a la 2009, and that showing no excess of alcohol while very closed earns it additional credit. Further, it maintains its excellent balance in a very dry format - something we should not take for granted in "ripe" vintages given this wine's counterparts from e.g. 1990.
And yet the wine is quite a mouthful and indeed rounded. There is no structure lacking, but one does not "taste" acidity because it is so buffered. Going purely by what's in the glass today, it is as if the opposite of what we usually fear - high sugars without sufficient phenolic ripeness - takes place here. A slight phenolic bitterness that disorderlies find pleasant and reassuring is gone; melted into a more amorphous but a dense and *textured* and thus less delineated mid-palate feel. I stress that this is an extremely unusual bottle of Huet Sec, and I can't think of historical references, before or after. Thumbs up, but hold.
Drinking 2005 Le Mont Sec last night certainly made me realize how unusual this vintage is for Huet as well. A superficial, hand-waving, and symptomatic take may be that this is a transitional vintage relative to global warming - with some of its symptoms more pronounced while others subtle, as well as one that predates a decision to make more dry wines at the Estate.
One thing out of the way - this wine is closed for business, as was Bourg Sec consumed last year. This is the toughest stage for assessing Chenin Sec, and should not be attempted by amateurs at home or at corporate picnics. So any impressions should be taken in appropriate context.
Looking through the thread above while fully realizing that Le Mont Sec was not mentioned specifically, it is important to note that this wine isn't "big" in a sense of alcohol or overt tropical flavors a la 2009, and that showing no excess of alcohol while very closed earns it additional credit. Further, it maintains its excellent balance in a very dry format - something we should not take for granted in "ripe" vintages given this wine's counterparts from e.g. 1990.
And yet the wine is quite a mouthful and indeed rounded. There is no structure lacking, but one does not "taste" acidity because it is so buffered. Going purely by what's in the glass today, it is as if the opposite of what we usually fear - high sugars without sufficient phenolic ripeness - takes place here. A slight phenolic bitterness that disorderlies find pleasant and reassuring is gone; melted into a more amorphous but a dense and *textured* and thus less delineated mid-palate feel. I stress that this is an extremely unusual bottle of Huet Sec, and I can't think of historical references, before or after. Thumbs up, but hold.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
Not quite on-topic, but I opened a 2002 Haut-Lieu sec last week that was about perfect for the vintner and vineyard.