TN: Two wines with half of the Wine Advocate crew.

Brad Kane

Brad Kane
I was excited when Luis Gutierrez recently got in touch with me to let me know that he was finally going to be in NYC and would love to get together with some of the old time Wine Lover's Discussion Group folks. We go back 18 or 19 years there as he was part of the Spanish contingent, which also included Victor de la Serna, that posted regularly and it was their participation, and, of course, the arguments between old school Rioja styles versus modernist Rioja and Ribera del Duero, that really grew my interest in Spanish wines. Now, Victor and Ignacio Villalgordo had come to NY and jeebed with the NY crew and I've been pestering Luis since I saw him in Madrid some years ago that he really needed to get to NY. Well, the one evening he was going to be free from his Wine Advocate Matter of Taste tour duties was problematic. Many of the WLDG people he wanted to meet were already committed to an all day jeeb, which had already been postponed once, out in NJ and the thought of doing a wine dinner after six hours of the same wasn't too appealing to them. A clear sign that my friends are getting old. Wouldn't you know it, Rieslingfeier was also being held that day and evening and a lot of other folks were committed to that. Then, as fate would have it, Bob corrals the troops for another Wine Advocate dinner on that evening. But, hey! That dinner gets overbooked and as I'm in a comfortable stupor on the train back from NJ, after fifteen wines and an endless array of tasty vittles, Luis shoots me an im saying that he and part of the Advocate crew were heading to Racines for a late dinner and I should join them. Funny how wine geeks from all backgrounds end up at Racines. Anyhoo, I head home, pick up a couple of bottles and head downtown. There's Luis along with Neal Martin, Lisa Perrotti-Brown, Stephan Reinhardt and Liwen Hao. I had met Neal a few years ago at a party at Leo's and it was nice to catch up with him again and it was a pleasure meeting Lisa, Stephan and Liwen. What followed was a lovely evening of the name game, remembering people and how things were in the early days of wine bulletin boards, the current state of wine and wine media and, of course, the wines on the table, though I only took notes on two of them. Many thanks to Luis for including me and I hope the next time he comes to town, we can give him a proper NY jeebus!

1996 François Cazin (Le Petit Chambord) Cour-Cheverny Vendanges Manuelles Cuvée Renaissance - France, Loire Valley, Upper Loire, Cour-Cheverny
I brought this along as it's always fun to bring oddball wines to critics and it never fails to impress. Still a vivid ageless wonder bursting with quince, mineral, citrus and hints of red fruit with a bit of sweetness and snappy acidity. Expansive across the palate and growing in depth and intensity with air, it's as spine tingling and thrilling as it always is and I was happy to see the Parker peeps were also digging it. I wish I had hijacked the truck back in the day as I really do need an endless supply. A.

2011 Marcel Juge Cornas - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
Certainly young, but showing beautifully with wonderful purity and clarity. Just what you want aromatically and on the palate from a Cornas. The black fruit is ripe, but not remotely overripe and is joined by olive, garrigue, meat and light seaweed/iodine notes all buttressed by sprightly acidity and suave tannins. Absolutely delightful. Solid A-.

1977 Robert Mondavi Winery Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve - USA, California, Napa Valley
I was originally thinking of bringing an old Rioja to share with Luis, but than thought better of it as he certainly drinks his share of them in Spain and opted instead to bring one of my favorite old Cabs. Wouldn't you know it? Corked! NR.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
"It never fails to disappoint"? And, yet, according to your account, it did so this time.

If your argument is going to be it disappointed because I gave it an "A" instead of an "A+," don't. You'd be wrong and I'd refuse to get into a pedantic argument about it.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
"It never fails to disappoint"? And, yet, according to your account, it did so this time.
I don't see a discouraging word in what Brad wrote.
Quite so. Apparently, it utterly failed to disappoint.

Luis is a real pro. Every time I see one of his tasting notes, it's a striking contrast with all the frauds in the game.
 
I assume this was Saturday night. I find it unbelievable that the German critic for the Wine Advocate was having dinner at Racines while one of the greatest German wine dinners in the world was happening 10 minutes away.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

I assume this was Saturday night. I find it unbelievable that the German critic for the Wine Advocate was having dinner at Racines while one of the greatest German wine dinners in the world was happening 10 minutes away.

Not that he needs defending, but he had been at the Wine Advocate event all day and was supposed to have dinner with Bob and the rest of that group, before it got overbooked and a few folks broke off last minute. After a long crazy day, I can certainly understand wanting a quiet dinner.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

I assume this was Saturday night. I find it unbelievable that the German critic for the Wine Advocate was having dinner at Racines while one of the greatest German wine dinners in the world was happening 10 minutes away.

Not that he needs defending, but he had been at the Wine Advocate event all day and was supposed to have dinner with Bob and the rest of that group, before it got overbooked and a few folks broke off last minute. After a long crazy day, I can certainly understand wanting a quiet dinner.

There were only three German producers out of 45 at the Matter of Taste. There was close to 15 top German producers and over 125 passionate German wine fans at Rieslingfeier. I would think you would both want to go and also have an obligation to your customers. Not to mention many of his peers where there.

Do you think Neal Martin would go to Racines if La Paulee was in town?

I still pay for a Wine Advocate subscription and have been extremely annoyed at how they could care less about Germany so it just struck a chord within me.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

I assume this was Saturday night. I find it unbelievable that the German critic for the Wine Advocate was having dinner at Racines while one of the greatest German wine dinners in the world was happening 10 minutes away.

Not that he needs defending, but he had been at the Wine Advocate event all day and was supposed to have dinner with Bob and the rest of that group, before it got overbooked and a few folks broke off last minute. After a long crazy day, I can certainly understand wanting a quiet dinner.

There were only three German producers out of 45 at the Matter of Taste. There was close to 15 top German producers and over 125 passionate German wine fans at Rieslingfeier. I would think you would both want to go and also have an obligation to your customers. Not to mention many of his peers where there.

Do you think Neal Martin would go to Racines if La Paulee was in town?

I still pay for a Wine Advocate subscription and have been extremely annoyed at how they could care less about Germany so it just stuck a chord within me.

So, are you suggesting he should've not attended the event the company that signs his checks organized and that he was a draw for and instead attended Rieslingfeier? I have no idea which organization chose their date first, but I find your criticism in this instance, misguided.
 
Yeah, but that's a triple negative. The guy meant "never fails to impress."

If I never fail to disappoint, I'm leaving a bread line of letdowns.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
"It never fails to disappoint"? And, yet, according to your account, it did so this time.

Yeesh. Ms. Bowman's comment clued me in. Remind me to to multitask and edit while I'm also trying to enter notes into cellartracker.

Sorry for the snark!
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
"It never fails to disappoint"? And, yet, according to your account, it did so this time.

Yeesh. Ms. Bowman's comment clued me in. Remind me to to multitask and edit while I'm also trying to enter notes into cellartracker.

Sorry for the snark!

Brad - you should always multitask when you're entering notes into cellartracker. Unless you meant not?
 
It's amazing to me that it took all the way to Keith and Sharon for someone to actually read the sentence. The major argument against speed reading. Thank you both.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
It's amazing to me that it took all the way to Keith and Sharon for someone to actually read the sentence. The major argument against speed reading. Thank you both.
Speaking for myself, I knew what he meant -- what I wanted him to mean -- by some approximation of the word-salad he offered so I did not bother parsing.
 
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