TN: some cellar bottles (May 21, 2016)

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Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
Some of the usual and not so usual suspects. Lotsa food and lotsa wine. (Alas, piecemeal notes.)

Pepiere 2014 Muscadet "Clos des Briords" was the best bottle on the table. It was cheerful, zippy, yellow-fruited but not frooty.

Rhys 2012 Pinot Noir "Family Farm" had no detectable flavor of any kind.

Clos Roche Blanche 2014 Touraine "Pif" was its usual cheerful self. I think the wine's flavor has take a turn for the damp earthy side as I did not immediately get the pineau d'aunis white-pepper thing so much. (ETA: Jay observes that it is made with cot and cab franc, not pineau d'aunis.)

Hirtzberger 2006 ? had nice flavors but, yes, a little flabby. Winton tried us blind on this one.

Baudry 2014 Chinon Blanc "La Croix Boissee", alas, never thrills me and this bottle didn't, either. It had the waxy finish but everything else about it could have been petit chablis or something like that. Maybe I'm drinking them 20 years too young.

Mellot ? Sancerre "Edmond" was soft.
 
I enjoyed the Rhys very much and it was a favorite of several people on the table. But the Briords and CRB were my favorites. The '06 Hirtzberger (not Pichler) was a bit flabby - presumably the vintage - but enjoyable. The Sancerre was quite nice with a particularly impressive nose but apparently quite overpriced.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I enjoyed the Rhys very much and it was a favorite of several people on the table. But the Briords and CRB were my favorites. The '06 Hirtzberger (not Pichler) was a bit flabby - presumably the vintage - but enjoyable. The Sancerre was quite nice with a particularly impressive nose but apparently quite overpriced.
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What? Do you mean Jeff is lying?
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I enjoyed the Rhys very much and it was a favorite of several people on the table. But the Briords and CRB were my favorites. The '06 Hirtzberger (not Pichler) was a bit flabby - presumably the vintage - but enjoyable. The Sancerre was quite nice with a particularly impressive nose but apparently quite overpriced.
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Do you remember vintage on the Sancerre or cepage on the Hirtzberger?
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

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Pepiere 2014 Muscadet "Clos des Briords", which was the best bottle on the table

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Try telling that to Wm Koch - Briords wouldn't make it in the door as a rinse!

I have a few bottles of the '10 Croix Boisée blanc - do you really think the bottles want more time, or are they just not that good, iyho?
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I have a few bottles of the '10 Croix Boisée blanc - do you really think the bottles want more time, or are they just not that good, iyho?
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They want a lot of time. One reads about bottles from 1996 that age at a snail's pace.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Clos Roche Blanche 2014 Touraine "Pif" was its usual cheerful self. I think the wine's flavor has take a turn for the damp earthy side as I did not immediately get the pineau d'aunis white-pepper thing so much.
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originally posted by Jay Miller:
But the Briords and CRB were my favorites.
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Great news. Picked up some Briords from Chambers, and Jarred had the Pif in before the holidays and I begged the family to pound them like factories in the Ruhr for my holiday gifts. Yippee. Now the inevitable decisions about how to time the deployments for maximum pleasure. Such problems.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:


Clos Roche Blanche 2014 Touraine "Pif" was its usual cheerful self. I think the wine's flavor has take a turn for the damp earthy side as I did not immediately get the pineau d'aunis white-pepper thing so much.
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Maybe because the wine is a blend of Cot and Cab Franc?
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:


Clos Roche Blanche 2014 Touraine "Pif" was its usual cheerful self. I think the wine's flavor has take a turn for the damp earthy side as I did not immediately get the pineau d'aunis white-pepper thing so much.
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Maybe because the wine is a blend of Cot and Cab Franc?
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Dressner taught us not to worry about cepage.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I have a few bottles of the '10 Croix Boisée blanc - do you really think the bottles want more time, or are they just not that good, iyho?
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They want a lot of time. One reads about bottles from 1996 that age at a snail's pace.
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There was no blanc in 1996. The first commercial release was somewhere in the mid-2000s, maybe 2004?

I haven't had the 2014 yet. I'll remedy that soon and report back with the definitive judgement.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:


Clos Roche Blanche 2014 Touraine "Pif" was its usual cheerful self. I think the wine's flavor has take a turn for the damp earthy side as I did not immediately get the pineau d'aunis white-pepper thing so much.
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Maybe because the wine is a blend of Cot and Cab Franc?
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Don't forget the 5% petit verdot.
 
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