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Visit to Vatan
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Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by robert ames:
. .yes, i am confounded by people that won't drink wine simply because it has gone up in value. .
But psychologically you understand economics and the 'dear-to-me' concept?
yes, and whilst i may feel wistful about drinking say my last bottle of verset cornas, i know that i would feel 10 times worse if i found that had kept it long enough to find it in decline and had missed its time of maximum glory.
And this is our definition of Tragedy.
Both Aristotle and Nietzsche have better ones. Nietzsche's even involves Dionysius, though not so much wine.
Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
Speaking of Juge, I thought older years we're difficult to find (if not impossible), so was surprised seeing it at auction recently.
Which vintages? Where?
04 & 05 at K&L. Thought these were supposed to be 'rare' and surprised to see them priced so reasonably.
$400 for the 2004 and $350 for the 2005 with two days to go left in the online auction. I guess reasonable is in the eye of the beholder. I have each of these in my cellar, so they were available in the U.S.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by robert ames:
and we all know how bogus myers-briggs is. . . .
So you're not really confounded? Ah, you sly dickens.
sorry, i'm not tracking. . .yes, i am confounded by people that won't drink wine simply because it has gone up in value. . .which really has nothing to do with myer's briggs being considered completely bogus by psychology world.
Ah, now everything is perfectly clear. Thank you.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by robert ames:
. .yes, i am confounded by people that won't drink wine simply because it has gone up in value. .
But psychologically you understand economics and the 'dear-to-me' concept?
yes, and whilst i may feel wistful about drinking say my last bottle of verset cornas, i know that i would feel 10 times worse if i found that had kept it long enough to find it in decline and had missed its time of maximum glory.
What is worse about drinking in decline and missing 'maximum glory' and drinking in ascent, and missing the same?
robert ames
robert ames
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by robert ames:
. .yes, i am confounded by people that won't drink wine simply because it has gone up in value. .
But psychologically you understand economics and the 'dear-to-me' concept?
yes, and whilst i may feel wistful about drinking say my last bottle of verset cornas, i know that i would feel 10 times worse if i found that had kept it long enough to find it in decline and had missed its time of maximum glory.
What is worse about drinking in decline and missing 'maximum glory' and drinking in ascent, and missing the same?
everyone has their own preferences, but i find wines still on their way up more enjoyable than wines that have passed their prime. just my preference.
another reason--the realisation that the wine had been sitting there in its state of perfection and i had let it pass me by.
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by robert ames:
i continue to be confounded by people being reluctant to drink a bottle become it has become "too valuable".
if you went to a restaurant where they had 2007 clos neore for something like 75 bucks it would be opened in a flash and you would talk of your good fortune for years.
This.
Price in secondary market for such wines goes up. Fact of life. Unless you are going to sell it or create a shrine to worship it, it is there to drink.
I have hard time opening wines like Vatan or Truchot Martin not so much because of their value but because, once uncorked, there's one less in the world.
If you bring the Truchot, I’ll bring the Juge.
Add Engel and you have the over-rated Trifecta.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by robert ames:
i continue to be confounded by people being reluctant to drink a bottle become it has become "too valuable".
if you went to a restaurant where they had 2007 clos neore for something like 75 bucks it would be opened in a flash and you would talk of your good fortune for years.
This.
Price in secondary market for such wines goes up. Fact of life. Unless you are going to sell it or create a shrine to worship it, it is there to drink.
I have hard time opening wines like Vatan or Truchot Martin not so much because of their value but because, once uncorked, there's one less in the world.
If you bring the Truchot, I’ll bring the Juge.
Add Engel and you have the over-rated Trifecta.
Hahahahaha. You are not invited. (Was never an Engel fan.)