A lovely handful of wines for my 50th

I am surprised by this anti-Janasse discussion. I think of Janasse and Mordoree as light years apart. One is spoofed and one simply represents the terroir. At least IMO.
 
I have had the Chaupin, though not recently. I found it less big but not less ripe than the VV. I think their whole line-up, from CdRs on up, look for big overripe fruit. My palate may not be as good as BJ's but I can't tell south from north parcels in their wine.

Mordoree added oak to the mix in staggering quantities. So I understand BJ's distinction. But really, both these wines are winemaker wines, not oenologue wines. I just don't like what the winemakers like.
 
I would say that the Janasse VV and the Chaupin had more or less similar ripeness, but the Chaupin (at least the couple of bottles I tried) was lacking in structure, a loosey-goosey, almost structureless wine. The VV at least had some spine...

Jonathan, which CdP do you like now? In the distant past, I liked the Brunel Centenaire, also Charvin, Pegau even in the vintages where they did not overdo it...
 
originally posted by Carl Steefel:
I would say that the Janasse VV and the Chaupin had more or less similar ripeness, but the Chaupin (at least the couple of bottles I tried) was lacking in structure, a loosey-goosey, almost structureless wine. The VV at least had some spine...

Jonathan, which CdP do you like now? In the distant past, I liked the Brunel Centenaire, also Charvin, Pegau even in the vintages where they did not overdo it...
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I am not Jonathan (obviously) but ones I still buy are Pegau, Vieux Telegraphe, Beaucastel and Charvin. Each scratches a different itch for me, but all remain relatively honest expressions of the AOC. My last tastes of Grand Tinel and Bois de Boursan (Cuvee Classique) were of unspoofed wines, but it's been a few years for each.

Mark Lipton
 
The list has dwindled down. Charvin, Ferrand, Mourre de Tendre, Pegau, Eddie Feraud, Bois de Boursan regular (I may rethink the Cuvee Felix--I quite liked the 2012--but up to now it has been riper than I would have preferred). If Banneret were more nearly $40 than $50, I might buy it more. I also like VT and probably should buy it more. As I have said before, Beaucastel lost me back around 2000.
 
I really like Canlis, and I agree with your initial thoughts as to the food, ambiance and service. Last time I was there, however, they really pissed me off.

I was with my brother and a friend and I decided to pick up the tab, somewhere in the region of $700. So, I'm looking at the bill and I notice that there are two charges for valet parking, $10 each. As a percentage of the bill it was nothing, but the fact that they would charge for parking on a bill of that size is unforgivable.

I enjoy the place, but they have lost me as a customer.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
I really like Canlis, and I agree with your initial thoughts as to the food, ambiance and service. Last time I was there, however, they really pissed me off.

I was with my brother and a friend and I decided to pick up the tab, somewhere in the region of $700. So, I'm looking at the bill and I notice that there are two charges for valet parking, $10 each. As a percentage of the bill it was nothing, but the fact that they would charge for parking on a bill of that size is unforgivable.

I enjoy the place, but they have lost me as a customer.
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Parker Posey would never had objected.
 
Mme L reported to me this weekend that she didn't much really care for the Janasse, so y'all's right.
 
That's right, the women are smarter.

Brad, did you make it to the natural wine event at Vif?
Any standouts?

Also have you seen JP Brun's 14 Beaujolais in town yet?
Here we have the '14 Bourgogne and the '14 Beaujolais blanc but none of the red Beaujolais.

The '14 Beaujolais blanc is really nice this year, we drank a bottle last night with roasted chicken and sauteed kale. 12%, tree fruit, great balance and very digestible.
 
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