A few at Rouge Tomate Chelsea

Sharon Bowman

Sharon Bowman
I met a pal at the new RT Chelsea last night. This was my third time there, and first time with the whole wine list in my paws.

The first time was for a pre-opening "friends and family" meal and they did not yet have a liquor license and said there was no possibility of BYO, either. That turned into a topsy-turvy night, because my reservation was for 8:30pm on the night that the bomb went off on 23rd Street exactly then, five blocks away. I was running late and from my taxi going up 6th Avenue began to see all manner of police cars, bomb squad vans, and TV vans.

The second time was opening night, and they had printed the white wine part of the list, but not yet the red. There were two of us, so we contented ourselves with:

1998 Pascal Doquet - A favorite grower from the Côte des Blancs (he is based in Vertus, but makes blended and Le Mesnil cuvées, too). This was just starting to get a little oxidative, but it was still plenty appealing and very much of its place.

2004 Raveneau Butteaux - Exemplary Raveneau, with all the parts in all the right places. So young, but really pretty.

Then other people sent over:

2004 Domaine d’Auvenay Auxey-Duresses "Les Clous" - same year, different beast. This was rich and oleaginous. It had that big-boned Côte d'Or chard thing going on. I liked it more than my companion, who found it too blowsy. This is what it's like to drink in a fancy zip code.

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Skip ahead to last night, and all the pieces of the wine list are in place.

2008 Larmandier-Bernier Terre de Vertus - I have always liked this very austere, non-dosé wine from Vertus (as some from USC a few years ago might recall), and here it remains Cistercian, but is still so pleasurable. Perfect bead.

2013 Domaine de la Sansonnière "Les Fouchardes" - Ah, the dry Bonnezeaux from Mark Angéli. Pascaline had an older rendition on the list (1998), but she and sommelier James mentioned they were coming off as pretty funky on opening and needed a long decant. However, she said, the 2013 was great. MAN, was she right. This thing was insane! Pure, pure nose, like the stoniest Chablis, but more complex on the palate, long and going down like an arrow. Holy hell, this is great. Extremely young, but extremely good.

2011 Vignes du Mayne Mâcon-Cruzille "910" - Or how they used to do it 1100 years ago. I have always loved this wine, since DLills turned me on to it a few years ago. The winemaker is a former clown, but there is nothing silly about this. Just a light, fantastic gamay/pinot noir blend, a little reminiscent of Ganevat's Cuvée Julien or J'en Veux.

Then Pascaline brought us over small pours of a different wine. She said it was a pinot noir.

I found it hard, ungiving, opaque, very tannic. Where could it be from? I hate to say it, but neither I nor my friend liked it very well. Pascaline said she thought it was a compelling wine.

It was: 2014 Ostertag Pinot Noir "Fronholz".... Wow, burly Alsatian.
 
Excellent, thank you, that Angeli sounds divine.

Have a 95 Doquet waiting in the wings (after you endorsed the purchase); sounds like it should be opened soon.

Opened a 2009 Terre de Vertus recently that was austere, perhaps more Apollonian than Cistercian. Had me wishing for a wee bit of dosage, for old times' sake.
 
Would be great to hear about the food, too, though this appears to be a wine board - Midtown vs Chelsea etc.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Have a 95 Doquet waiting in the wings (after you endorsed the purchase); sounds like it should be opened soon.

Depends which one. I think the Le Mesnil and single parcel age more slowly than the "regular" vintage cuvée.

Opened a 2009 Terre de Vertus recently that was austere, perhaps more Apollonian than Cistercian. Had me wishing for a wee bit of dosage, for old times' sake.

Wow, and 2009 is a super-ripe vintage! And Vertus is the southernmost village on the CdB!
 
originally posted by mark e:
Would be great to hear about the food, too, though this appears to be a wine board - Midtown vs Chelsea etc.

Yeah, I realized I should have said a few things about the food.

I've always found their approach (fruit reductions and the like, rather than any kind of fat) to be a little off-putting. At the old spot, I mostly liked the bruschette and the crudo dishes best (they had a great waloo, though 'ware the effects of too much, etc....).

At the new spot, everything is little and diced up and some fish are moated with pineapple reduction, but overall, the food tastes good.

We were sent out a quenelle of celery root pâté, a little chunky, as though they'd transformed céleri rémoulade into rillettes. It was tasty.

The "mushroom" dish (no qualifier!) was actually diced portobello with a few other things, and was good, I thought.

Mackerel was served with a kind of sour slaw and the texture was a bit dry and the slaw over-sour.

Amberjack was diced up too and with said pineapple coulis. I like it, but on the second trip, my companion wasn't enjoying the pineapple.

Snails and chicken livers were lovingly combined with some maitake and grits, by far my favorite appetizer.

For mains, I had the chicken all three times. It's three small pieces of breast meat and some small vegetables, fairly forgettable. My friend the first time seemed to like the venison, but I didn't get a chance to try it.

So.... Things are about as they were in the old spot. The space is way, way more attractive than the old one, though I did kind of like the "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe of the former space.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

For mains, I had the chicken all three times. It's three small pieces of breast meat and some small vegetables, fairly forgettable.

if it was fairly forgettable, why order it every time???
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

For mains, I had the chicken all three times. It's three small pieces of breast meat and some small vegetables, fairly forgettable.

if it was fairly forgettable, why order it every time???

Presumably, it is unobtrusive on the wine.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

For mains, I had the chicken all three times. It's three small pieces of breast meat and some small vegetables, fairly forgettable.

if it was fairly forgettable, why order it every time???

Presumably, it is unobtrusive on the wine.

... and, after all, it appears to be a wine restaurant.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

For mains, I had the chicken all three times. It's three small pieces of breast meat and some small vegetables, fairly forgettable.

if it was fairly forgettable, why order it every time???

Probably because she "forgets" she had it earlier?
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

For mains, I had the chicken all three times. It's three small pieces of breast meat and some small vegetables, fairly forgettable.

if it was fairly forgettable, why order it every time???
...and such small portions!
 
Aside from the venison (which I'm not sure is still on the menu?), the other options are fish or vegetables, and after many fish and vegetable starters, they just didn't appeal.

That, or I was distracted.
 
An early night at Rouge Tomate tonight. Had a different friend try the last bottle of the same 2013 Sansonnière Fouchardes, straight as a dart but with billows of "I'm sailing on savory mouth clouds" afterward, followed by a 2012 Anglore Tavel "Vintage" (formerly "Barricade"), which was quite open for business.

This friend, hilariously (I hate to speak "ill," but it was funny) was at first resistant to the idea of ordering the chicken livers and snails with grits dish, which is delicious, as he hails from Alabama. I said: "Think of it as polenta." It was ordered and won over the Alabaman friend, to my confirmed satisfaction. Again, that was a good dish.

It was fun to share wines with the discreet yet game staff, and we got a pour of 2013 Clef du Sol Chenin, interesting next to the Fouchardes; leaner, more acidic. Both compelling.

Then, I hate to admit, a pour of a red Anjou I didn't catch the name of, as the Anglore was coming out.

My non-wine-geek friend found the nose a bit off, and said, "Sometimes a wine smells like this, but it tastes different. This doesn't."

Well said. I think it might have been brett.

But a fun atmosphere, great list, many things to choose from, many people to talk wine with. A fantastic wine atmosphere and evening.
 
I was there last weekend. I liked the aesthetics and the vibe quite a bit. I was with other wine geeks and deferred control over the wine selections, but the two Champagnes that were ordered were fantastic. Best venison I've had in a long while, as well. I think it's a great addition/resurrection for the NYC restaurant scene.
 
originally posted by Asher:
I was there last weekend. I liked the aesthetics and the vibe quite a bit. I was with other wine geeks and deferred control over the wine selections, but the two Champagnes that were ordered were fantastic. Best venison I've had in a long while, as well. I think it's a great addition/resurrection for the NYC restaurant scene.

Agreed. Lovely food and wine in my recent visit to the new Chelsea location, which is a great improvement over midtown. I might have even been there the same night you were. But very odd and not entirely pleasant interactions with the sommelier on duty (not Pascaline).
 
1995 Pascal Doquet Le Mesnil sur Oger Grand Cru Coeur de Terroir Brut 12.5%
100% Chardonnay. Bottled 1996, disgorged January 2015, 7 g/l (an intervention). Guaraná powder, almonds, and yeast, with an overlay of tertiaries promising experiences deep and profound. Acidity is pleasingly piercing, but has an yeasty aftertaste that mercifully vanishes with grub. All in all, a pretty and refined experience, thanks to the prancing tertiaries, but it never quite vaults into the land of wow.

ps: fwiw, in my very limited experience, including only one side-by-side, but more than one vague impressions, I prefer them champs aged in bottles rather than barrels
 
I don't think it holds up to call 7 g/l residual sugar "an intervention." The dosage is going in there to make the fizz whether there is any residual sugar left or not. The bubbles are the intervention...
 
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