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Sharon Bowman

Sharon Bowman
I had wine another two times after a long hiatus (viz. previous).

2011 Gonon Saint-Joseph - hoooooooooo young. And I mean this as a battle cry for the sundry VLMs and Jay Millers (pace the Syrah grape) who drink things this young (oh, and side-eye to Rahsaan). This has the mileage, but is has de la route before it. Hold. Please, hold.

2015 Jo Landron "Atmosphères" - All I can say is that I wish more people were Arletty fans.

Then:

2013 Hauvette Côtes de Provence "Petra" - dancin' tannic rosé of not this last rainfall. Really sturdy (in a good way) and also petally; it was better with air, more savory, which I love with good rosés with age; equally good with venison and skate.

2012 Valette Macon Chaîntré Vielles Vignes - your faithful servant has nothing to say. This is our chardonnay, passed through a lower Burgundy place with a ginger beer snap, and is gorgeous (though as ever Valette's Viré-Clessé is my doll). This is so good—the back-end has the delicious slight yeast that gives you the subtle kick.

2015 François Chidaine Montlouis-sur-Loire "Les Choisilles" - This is lean and incredibly laser-like. Like, if you thought something else was laser-like, drink this next to it and you'll quickly recant. It has a fantastic rush on the front and then, "ooh, my lips pucker," and all the better for it.
 
2015 François Chidaine Montlouis-sur-Loire "Les Choisilles" - This is lean and incredibly laser-like. Like, if you thought something else was laser-like, drink this next to it and you'll quickly recant. It has a fantastic rush on the front and then, "ooh, my lips pucker," and all the better for it.
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In my non-existent French, I've always called it "chisels".
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

2011 Gonon Saint-Joseph - hoooooooooo young. And I mean this as a battle cry for the sundry VLMs and Jay Millers (pace the Syrah grape) who drink things this young (oh, and side-eye to Rahsaan). This has the mileage, but is has de la route before it. Hold. Please, hold.
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Hey, if you want to send me your fully stocked and well-aged cellar, go for it!

Otherwise, I have fallen away from my Gonon drinking in recent years (can't drink everything, and somehow this seemed to get too culty and expensive for its own good, at least IMO) but nice to hear a good report.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

2011 Gonon Saint-Joseph - hoooooooooo young. And I mean this as a battle cry for the sundry VLMs and Jay Millers (pace the Syrah grape) who drink things this young (oh, and side-eye to Rahsaan). This has the mileage, but is has de la route before it. Hold. Please, hold.
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Hey, if you want to send me your fully stocked and well-aged cellar, go for it!

Otherwise, I have fallen away from my Gonon drinking in recent years (can't drink everything, and somehow this seemed to get too culty and expensive for its own good, at least IMO) but nice to hear a good report.
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I believe it is Cornas that has become too expensive (and hard to find), not Gonon St. Joseph, which I consider an excellent value along with Texier Brézème (prefer the regular but Pergault, too).
 
You know, I was out of touch with how much it's going for these days, and a quick look shows it's $65-$70 now. Wasn't it really recently half that?!
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
You know, I was out of touch with how much it's going for these days, and a quick look shows it's $65-$70 now. Wasn't it really recently half that?!
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Just looked up my CSW invoice from this past fall. It was 39.99 minus case discount. So not nearly that much.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Remember ye the rule of 15
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Agreed, but I think a lot of 2011 Northern Rhone reds are especially difficult now and really need the 15 years (or maybe 20 in this case?) more than other recent vintages do. 2012s are a lot more accessible at the moment, including Gonon SJ, if one must drink something young.
 
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

2011 Gonon Saint-Joseph - hoooooooooo young. And I mean this as a battle cry for the sundry VLMs and Jay Millers (pace the Syrah grape) who drink things this young (oh, and side-eye to Rahsaan). This has the mileage, but is has de la route before it. Hold. Please, hold.
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Hey, if you want to send me your fully stocked and well-aged cellar, go for it!

Otherwise, I have fallen away from my Gonon drinking in recent years (can't drink everything, and somehow this seemed to get too culty and expensive for its own good, at least IMO) but nice to hear a good report.
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I believe it is Cornas that has become too expensive (and hard to find), not Gonon St. Joseph, which I consider an excellent value along with Texier Brézème (prefer the regular but Pergault, too).
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If you're lucky enough to be on the CSW secret Gonon list. I pay $45 wholesale for that wine from the KL distributor.

I think Texier Brezem and St. Julien Pergaud bottlings are my champion values. Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
 
originally posted by VLM:
Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
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Concur. Have only had the 2011 but it was delicious. More suave in style than the ultra traditionalists in Cote-Rotie that I usually favor but I loved it.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:

2011 Gonon Saint-Joseph - hoooooooooo young. And I mean this as a battle cry for the sundry VLMs and Jay Millers (pace the Syrah grape) who drink things this young (oh, and side-eye to Rahsaan). This has the mileage, but is has de la route before it. Hold. Please, hold.
Click to expand...

Hey, if you want to send me your fully stocked and well-aged cellar, go for it!

Otherwise, I have fallen away from my Gonon drinking in recent years (can't drink everything, and somehow this seemed to get too culty and expensive for its own good, at least IMO) but nice to hear a good report.
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I believe it is Cornas that has become too expensive (and hard to find), not Gonon St. Joseph, which I consider an excellent value along with Texier Brézème (prefer the regular but Pergault, too).
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If you're lucky enough to be on the CSW secret Gonon list. I pay $45 wholesale for that wine from the KL distributor.
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Unfortunately I am not on any secret lists there. In fact, that is why I've never been able to buy a single bottle of Clape, Ganevat nor Overnoy. But the website often has a limit per purchase. Gonon has different distributors and KL is usually a pretty expensive one (at least from my CA experience); sometimes their wholesale pricing didn't reflect just a standard importer's markup, but a scarcity surtax.
 
originally posted by slaton:
originally posted by VLM:
Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
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Concur. Have only had the 2011 but it was delicious. More suave in style than the ultra traditionalists in Cote-Rotie that I usually favor but I loved it.
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The Saint-Joseph is almost as good and similarly suave, and considerably less expensive.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by slaton:
originally posted by VLM:
Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
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Concur. Have only had the 2011 but it was delicious. More suave in style than the ultra traditionalists in Cote-Rotie that I usually favor but I loved it.
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The Saint-Joseph is almost as good and similarly suave, and considerably less expensive.
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I have fond recollections of the 2011 St. Cote Epine st. Jseph you opened about two years ago.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by slaton:
originally posted by VLM:
Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
Click to expand...

Concur. Have only had the 2011 but it was delicious. More suave in style than the ultra traditionalists in Cote-Rotie that I usually favor but I loved it.
Click to expand...

The Saint-Joseph is almost as good and similarly suave, and considerably less expensive.
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I have fond recollections of the 2011 St. Cote Epine st. Jseph you opened about two years ago.
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It was the 2013, but yes, what a nice wine. It includes wine from grapes from a portion of Trollat's old-vine vineyards (Gonon has the other portion). I am looking forward to the 2015, which ought to arrive in April.
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by slaton:
originally posted by VLM:
Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
Click to expand...

Concur. Have only had the 2011 but it was delicious. More suave in style than the ultra traditionalists in Cote-Rotie that I usually favor but I loved it.
Click to expand...

The Saint-Joseph is almost as good and similarly suave, and considerably less expensive.
Click to expand...

I have fond recollections of the 2011 St. Cote Epine st. Jseph you opened about two years ago.
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It was the 2013, but yes, what a nice wine. It includes wine from grapes from a portion of Trollat's old-vine vineyards (Gonon has the other portion). I am looking forward to the 2015, which ought to arrive in April.
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I don't understand the name of the producer you're talking about. I'm assuming Jay is having more autocorrect issues?
 
originally posted by Zachary Ross:
originally posted by slaton:
originally posted by VLM:
Something new to me is the Xavier Gerard Côte-Rôtie which I like a lot.
Click to expand...

Concur. Have only had the 2011 but it was delicious. More suave in style than the ultra traditionalists in Cote-Rotie that I usually favor but I loved it.
Click to expand...

The Saint-Joseph is almost as good and similarly suave, and considerably less expensive.
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I've never had a Gerard St. Joseph.
 
originally posted by mark e:
Unfortunately I am not on any secret lists there. In fact, that is why I've never been able to buy a single bottle of Clape, Ganevat nor Overnoy. But the website often has a limit per purchase. Gonon has different distributors and KL is usually a pretty expensive one (at least from my CA experience); sometimes their wholesale pricing didn't reflect just a standard importer's markup, but a scarcity surtax.
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If I get offered any Clape or Ganevat, I'll let you know. It'll be expensive.

I don't expect to ever see another bottle of Overnoy (or maybe Rougeard).
 
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