Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Tired of being ganders?
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TN: Up North
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Todd Abrams
Todd Abrams
originally posted by VLM:
I've also been a Germain non-believer but had heard the rumblings (and you're right about the Bordeaux roots and the effect on the style). It just so happens that I bought a spread of all that were available to me today. Right now, I'm drinking a glass of very tart Saumur Insolite (this wine used to be rich and woody). I also grabbed bottles of Clos du Moulin blanc, red Franc de Pied and red Clos de L'Echelier. Who knows, maybe I'll put some notes up on the VLM-TR...
2015? I'm not quite as sold on his top whites yet but the 2014 Insolite was a tasty drink on the lower end. I've found the Franc de Pied to be a pretty expression compared to Clos de L'Echelier's broader shoulders. I believe you'll find those two cuvees to show the polarity of his more ambitious reds. Looking forward to your notes.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
Magical. Thank you.
Had me thinking, for the first time in years, about my 3-day canoeing trip down the Au Sable in 1981. We didn't have Barral or Cognac.
Had me thinking, for the first time in years, about my 3-day canoeing trip down the Au Sable in 1981. We didn't have Barral or Cognac.
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
"An argument broke out about whether it smelled more of petrol or gasoline."
I enjoyed that, thank you.
I enjoyed that, thank you.
Tristan Welles
Tristan Welles
Terrific posts, thanks. I will be in Paris for April and now have a goal of finding a bottle of Fougerat.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
Foillard 2014 Morgon “Cote du Py” ...as many times as I've tasted this wine, young and aged, it has yet to move me the way it moves others. I always find its tartness distracting.
So I'm guessing from this note that your experiences are not limited to the '14. Of course it is not a requirement that anyone like or be moved by any given wine, we all have our own tastes after all. But interesting that your complaint is the tartness. Given your positive note on the poulsard, I wouldn't have thought that tartness would be the problem!
And FWIW, I don't find Foillard to be particularly lean, at least among peers. The carbonic elements add such juicyness, and I do tend to find more depth than with Lapierre.
I expect a measure of tartness in Jura Poulsard as I expect a depth of fruit in Morgon. I guess that's really my issue here. Although I like the wine, I find that Foillard's Cote du Py never meets my expectations (going back to 2003?), particularly given how much praise is heaped upon the wine. It's interesting that you bring up Lapierre. I believe a better comparison to Foillard's Cote du Py, at least in my local market, is “Cuvee Marcel Lapierre.” Not much more per bottle (if you can find it) yet a leap in quality.
Last night a bottle of the 2014 Foillard Côte du Py 12.5%, my first, was underwhelming. On the closed side, with little in the way of hoped-for semi-carbonic spice charm. A bit chunky, but balanced. Went well with food but, as Roman Senators used to say when traveling to inspect the provinces, it was nothing to write Rome about.