Whole Roast Chicken in NYC

[Bill Lundstrom]

If you could only eat one roast chicken in Manhattan where would you go?

 

[Brad Kane]

My place. ;-)

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

originally posted by Brad Kane:
My place. ;-)

so, I've heard. you around this weekend?

 

[Jay Miller]

Mangeoire is good

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

any opinions on le turtle or nomad?

 

[Brad Kane]

originally posted by Jay Miller:
Mangeoire is good

No longer. The owner sold last summer. It's gone downhill since.

 

[Pierre-Yves]

Coq Rico

 

[mark e]

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

thats almost twice what Zuni Cafe charges for their roast chicken.

 

[mark e]

originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

thats almost twice what Zuni Cafe charges for their roast chicken.

Almost, but not quite. (Zuni's is $58 right now).

But, crap sourcing on the Zuni bird, so it might be hard to compare.

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by mark e:
Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

I can get Freedom Rangers from the farm at $6/lb. Always struck me as kinda a lot for 4-7# bird. Are they so good?

 

[Brad Kane]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

Yes. I've heard a lot of good things about the chicken there from a number of friends who have eaten there, but it's against my religion to pay that much for a roast chicken. I also hear they're no longer byo friendly.

 

[mark e]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by mark e:
Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

I can get Freedom Rangers from the farm at $6/lb. Always struck me as kinda a lot for 4-7# bird. Are they so good?

I think so. I pay $7/lb for a FR fed on organic feed. The margin for the farmer is pretty slim. Maybe $1 per pound if they are lucky and efficient (that includes USDA processing). Farm-processed on conventional feed should be less than $6 to the consumer, but that farmer is making considerably more.

 

[mark e]

originally posted by Brad Kane:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

I also hear they're no longer byo friendly.

Aren't most restaurants in NY non-BYO friendly?

 

[Tom Blach]

A poulet de bresse now costs £40 in the London butchers that stock it. Annoyingly it really is much better than anything else.

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

D'artagnan green circle birds a pretty reliable at about $5 pound

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

thats almost twice what Zuni Cafe charges for their roast chicken.

Almost, but not quite. (Zuni's is $58 right now).

But, crap sourcing on the Zuni bird, so it might be hard to compare.

don't they come from a local source? they used to. i always thought Zuni's roast chicken was very good.

 

[mark e]

originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

thats almost twice what Zuni Cafe charges for their roast chicken.

Almost, but not quite. (Zuni's is $58 right now).

But, crap sourcing on the Zuni bird, so it might be hard to compare.

don't they come from a local source? they used to. i always thought Zuni's roast chicken was very good.

No. Their chicken was pretty good, but a bit bland. The source might be local, but it isn't artisanal or a small farm.

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

thats almost twice what Zuni Cafe charges for their roast chicken.

Almost, but not quite. (Zuni's is $58 right now).

But, crap sourcing on the Zuni bird, so it might be hard to compare.

don't they come from a local source? they used to. i always thought Zuni's roast chicken was very good.

No. Their chicken was pretty good, but a bit bland. The source might be local, but it isn't artisanal or a small farm.

"no" its not good? or "no" its not local? I'm not following you.

 

[Brad Kane]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Brad Kane:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Pierre-Yves:
Coq Rico

I've heard they are excellent. And given that folks who live in Manhattan probably make more money than lesser mortals elsewhere, but $98-100 for a whole roast chicken?

Let's assume the restaurant is paying $25 per farm raised, organically fed chicken. That still is a pretty stiff markup. No one eats heritage breeds, though, because the feed conversion ratio is so unfavorable. Really it is either Cornish Cross (an inferior bird) or Freedom Rangers, which have excellent flavor.

I also hear they're no longer byo friendly.

Aren't most restaurants in NY non-BYO friendly?

Yes, but when they first opened (within the past year, I believe,) it was reported that they were byo friendly. Word is that is no longer the case.