The Muscadet

It's everywhere here in Jet City.

Well, not everywhere...but it's around.

I think in a league of his own - a notch above LP and Pepiere (heresy, I know) - do yourself a favor and track some down - everything I've had has been remarkable.
 
originally posted by BJ:
It's everywhere here in Jet City.

Well, not everywhere...but it's around.

I think in a league of his own - a notch above LP and Pepiere (heresy, I know) - do yourself a favor and track some down - everything I've had has been remarkable.
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About 120 different bottlings. Which have you sampled, mon cher?
 
I was just reading CSW's description of the 2016 Pepie. Has anyone dallied with this survivor? I will try a bottle soon, if I can find one on the local shelves.
 
I would try it given the low tariff. I applaud the effort it took to release this wine, and I found it very friendly but somewhat a letdown if comparing (in recent memory) to 2012-2014 Pepiere, particularly 2014. It’s also unique as a drinking experience in that it’s a blend that doesn’t normally exist, and i had a sense of that as I tried to fit it into the Marc Ollivier pantheon. Doesn’t quite fit in (which is fine).
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I was just reading CSW's description of the 2016 Pepie. Has anyone dallied with this survivor? I will try a bottle soon, if I can find one on the local shelves.
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Had it at what used to be the Real Wine Attack yesterday. Quite nice albeit not up to the usual Pepiere bottling in a better vintage. But worth drinking and worth supporting them through a weaker vintage.

Speaking of which, I heard from Denyse that Francois Pinon lost a lot of the 2017 and 2016 vintages to frost. The poor guy just can't catch a break. As soon as my annual wine budget recycles in December I'll buy some more Pinon. Pretty much never a bad idea anyway.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Caille. Caille. Caille.
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I live in the same area as BJ and hadn't had any experience with Caille, so I bought a sampler of a couple bottles to see what they were all about. 3 different Muscadets were available:

2010 Le Fay d’Homme Monnières-Saint Fiacre - This was by far my favorite of the three. Really gorgeous aromatically and a very fine mineral streak through it. I mostly drink Pepiere as reference for the appellation and in comparison this was a little less bright, but very lovely (and fantastic to have a 2010 as current release!)

2016 Le Fay d’Homme Muscadet Sèvre et Maine sur Lie - I found this to be fairly basic and little rounder than I prefer but perfectly enjoyable if not remarkable.

2015 Le Fay d’Homme Clos de la Févrie - This was perhaps the most unusual of the three. In some ways it reminded me of a still Champagne with a generous dose of unsweetened cocoa powder on the palate. Perhaps a little oxidation? Again, I don't know if it was a function of the vintage, but it lacked a bit of the cut and energy I enjoy in Muscadet.

All in all, glad to taste a new producer, and especially the Monnières-Saint Fiacre was a wine I'd certainly buy again. Not sure it'll replace Pepiere for me in the cellar anytime soon though.
 
Like Brian I tried these also. I only had the Clos de la Fevrie and the basic bottle Fay d’Homme. Both were from the 2015 vintage. The basic bottle was exactly as Brian described. I thought it was good given the hot year, lowish acid for Muscadet and pleasantly ripe fruit but not more than that.

I really liked the ‘15 Clos de la Fevrie bottle. It’s grown on gneiss I believe, and has more in common with some of the Luneau Papin Muscadet then Pepiere Briords. Really interesting nose and full texture, certainly less cut then most Briords.

Brian - where did you find the Monnieres bottle? I would love to try it.
 
originally posted by Marc D:


Brian - where did you find the Monnieres bottle? I would love to try it.
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OWD had a couple bottles, gone last I checked but I bet he could get more.
 
Brian dude, you're making me sound hyperbolic! I never do that!

I find Caille seems to take more risks, extremes. Their gros plant is wild - had it at times and thought it was fab, others just too OTT (enamel peeling), all same vintage.

I first had them at Verre Vole in Paris.

Shawn gets them in a lot.

The Fay d'Homme normale is more straight ahead...the other cuvees more interesting...
 
A decent showing for 2009 Briords last night, much better than a bottle a few months ago.
2005 also disappointed recently, thin and showing alcohol on the finish.
Couple of recent bottles of 2010 have been rather nice, though.

It's really surprised me but in recent I've come around to the Cory view on aging Muscadet. I really prefer it within the first few years when the structure and mineral signature speak loudest, before they develop additional inner richness.

Even Briords.
 
Last night, at a Happy Hour with dollar oysters and littlenecks: Vignerons Du Pallet 2016 Muscadet "Les Roches Blanches" worked well with the seafood but was a little lackluster by itself. Marc, Jo, Guy, and Pierre-Marie have nothing to worry about from this bottle.
 
originally posted by slaton:
A decent showing for 2009 Briords last night, much better than a bottle a few months ago.
2005 also disappointed recently, thin and showing alcohol on the finish.
Couple of recent bottles of 2010 have been rather nice, though.

It's really surprised me but in recent I've come around to the Cory view on aging Muscadet. I really prefer it within the first few years when the structure and mineral signature speak loudest, before they develop additional inner richness.

Even Briords.
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That would be the Monkey Way for Muscadet.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by slaton:
A decent showing for 2009 Briords last night, much better than a bottle a few months ago.
2005 also disappointed recently, thin and showing alcohol on the finish.
Couple of recent bottles of 2010 have been rather nice, though.

It's really surprised me but in recent I've come around to the Cory view on aging Muscadet. I really prefer it within the first few years when the structure and mineral signature speak loudest, before they develop additional inner richness.

Even Briords.
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That would be the Monkey Way for Muscadet.
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95 and 97 L D'Or from Luneau- Papin have been revelatory recently for me. still have a few and each one i open is a true pleasure.
 
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