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TN: Salil at Bite of Hong Kong (Oct. 8, 2017)
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Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
originally posted by VLM:
As an aside, it's been great to see you participating more in the wine interwebs. A bit inspiring. I might even follow your lead. Hope all is well.
Yeah. I saw your name pop up on WB. You are NathanV there I assume? It had been years since I did more than an occasional snipe or comments on other people’s jeebus notes. Maybe part of my renewed interest over the last few months has to do with Coad’s passing, but I caught the bug again and am again spending a bit of time on the wine boards. And I was never good about keeping quiet when I have an opinion. I also think I was seduced by some of the nonsense (but also genuine passion and wine geekiness) going on at WB, as well as the stalwart community here on Disorder.
We don’t see you as much as we used to, and we are the worse for it.
On a wine note and back to Bongran, I can’t remember if I posted a note or otherwise commented on how good 1996 was from magnum last November. My only magnum. And I drank my 750s of that long ago. For some reason I stopped buying Thevenet after 2002, so I picked up some of the 2014 Roally last night for a stupid low price.
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
Clos Rougeard 1998 Saumur Blanc "Chace" - really expands and morphs several times. Fascinating. May have evolved to a bit awkward on the finish after a couple hours but it was packed full of flavor and mineral.
At one time I knew the etiology of Chacé versus Brézé but it seems lost to the cobwebs.
Falkenstein
I've been drinking a ton of the 2015s and expect to load up on 2016s when they arrive to my market. I really love these wines. Haven't figured out all the different cuvées yet.
Dom. Bongran (Thevenet) 1997 Macon Clesse "Cuvee Tradition" - my bottle and more than a little tired. Has become that bottle of Macon Chard that should have been drink 5-10 years ago. I have one bottle left and expect the same.
I've had a couple of great bottles of the 2000 in the past year and also 2005s and maybe another year I'm forgetting. Loved them all. Sorry to hear that this is past its best. I've started to cellar these wines again and am expecting great things.
Dom. Roally (Thevenet) 2002 Macon-Montbellet "Tradition" - my last bottle of this, and I think we were all surprised at how compelling it was. Dynamite freshness but also complexity. Maybe Mike Evans will come visit and bring more?
I wish I had thought to cellar these. For some reason, I have never cellared these. Maybe I just needed to buy too much so that some got lost in the shuffle. Every time I've had one with age, I've loved it, even the really rich versions. Like Bongran, I'm also trying to start cellaring this as well with high expectations.
Dom. Baudry 2005 Chinon "Les Grezeaux" - great potential. Not ready yet.
Dom. Baudry 2014 Chinon "Le Clos Guillot" - I liked it. Beam of fruit.
The last 2005 Grézeaux I had I thought was already great. I still haven't tried a bottle of the 2014 Guillot yet, thanks for the reminder.
As an aside, it's been great to see you participating more in the wine interwebs. A bit inspiring. I might even follow your lead. Hope all is well.
I had the 2014 Clos Guillot last night and all I will sayd is that Stephanie immediately grabbed the bottle to look at the label and exclaimed, "That's really good! Oh, it's Matthieu..."
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by VLM:
As an aside, it's been great to see you participating more in the wine interwebs. A bit inspiring. I might even follow your lead. Hope all is well.
Yeah. I saw your name pop up on WB. You are NathanV there I assume? It had been years since I did more than an occasional snipe or comments on other people’s jeebus notes. Maybe part of my renewed interest over the last few months has to do with Coad’s passing, but I caught the bug again and am again spending a bit of time on the wine boards. And I was never good about keeping quiet when I have an opinion. I also think I was seduced by some of the nonsense (but also genuine passion and wine geekiness) going on at WB, as well as the stalwart community here on Disorder.
We don’t see you as much as we used to, and we are the worse for it.
On a wine note and back to Bongran, I can’t remember if I posted a note or otherwise commented on how good 1996 was from magnum last November. My only magnum. And I drank my 750s of that long ago. For some reason I stopped buying Thevenet after 2002, so I picked up some of the 2014 Roally last night for a stupid low price.
Yep, I'm Nathan V NOT Nathan Smyth... Sounds like we both made the same mistake and have changed courses vis a vis Thevenet/Bongran/Roally.
I felt pangs of inspiration after Chris too (even thought about bringing back the VLM-TR), but then life crept back in and it fell by the wayside. My inspirations for writing about wine on the interwebs and for a lot of wine related things in general were from Joes Dressner & Dougherty* and Chris. All gone now and my world is dimmer for it. I drink wine almost every day with dinner, so I will think about at least one of them every day. At least there is that.
* I had a dream about him the other night. He was still alive and had just been kidding about dying. I chased him all over some weird Blade Runner lite version of Chinatown, but as soon as I cornered him to start to talk, I would turn my head and he'd be gone and I'd have to chase him all over again. Eventually, I woke up but with the feeling he was still for a few minutes until reality set in. Maybe TMI for everyone.
originally posted by VLM:
* I had a dream about him the other night. He was still alive and had just been kidding about dying. I chased him all over some weird Blade Runner lite version of Chinatown, but as soon as I cornered him to start to talk, I would turn my head and he'd be gone and I'd have to chase him all over again. Eventually, I woke up but with the feeling he was still for a few minutes until reality set in. Maybe TMI for everyone.
To paraphrase Newton, if we see farther today, it's because we stand on the shoulders of those giants who came before us. I know that I continue to post here in part because I know how much this bored meant to SFJoe. Regarding your dream, I can relate the following anecdote. Shortly after my father's untimely death, I began dreaming of him on a semi-regular basis. The dreams took the form of conversations between the two of us, the subjects of which I could rarely recall afterward. I found them comforting in a way that I could continue talking to him even after his death. I was vividly reminded of this when I read the scene in "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" in which Harry encounters Prof. Dumbledore at King's Cross after both of them had died. Toward the end of their encounter, Harry asks Dumbledore whether their encounter was real or just all in his head. Dumbledore's response, one of the few memorable lines from the whole series, was "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"
Mark Lipton
originally posted by Rahsaan:
(That said, since I've been drinking more GGs, the sweetness in the off-dry wines has become more noticeable)
That is a big mistake. You willwarp your palate and the GGs are so much moreexpensive.
So I recently had the privilege of meeting and sharing wine with Carl von Schubert. He was touring a short tour with some other domaines including Ernie Loosen and i took in a couple of 07 spatlesen to open, including his Abstberg, which showed really well - he seemed surprised and impressed. He was also quite taken by the fact that i brought in several bottles to share - he mentioned that people he’d met in Chicago had done the same thing and he was really impressed by Americans’ geneousity!
Anyway, he asked if i had heard of Rieslingfier and encouraged me to do so next winter. So,Jayson, are we still planning something?
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
Sure. Maybe. Probably.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
I never bought the wonderful 2016 Euchariusberg Auslese we had at this meal....until this week. I’m looking forward to revisiting.