cote des bar. . . .

robert ames

robert ames
are there any premier or grand cru vineyards in the cote des bar? lieu dits?

i've done a little looking but feeling lazy and figured some disorderly would know.

merci!
 
and yet there is no Sharon.

also, i am unaware of any deviousness that may appear to others to be bound up in my query. i am an innocent seeker.

none-the-less, Sharon, if you are the holder of Such Knowledge, i would be flattered with The Answers.

i just received from louis/dressner the 6 bottle allocation of 2011 olivier horiot rose des riceys valingrain for the state of washington, and would like to speak knowledgeably of this lovely corner of france.

merci!
 
... olivier horiot rose des riceys valingrain for the state of washington, and would like to speak knowledgeably of this lovely corner of france.

Having just had the 2008 version, I'd say it's no great loss if we don't hear anything. Had to spike it with an open bottle of Port to make it drinkable.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
... olivier horiot rose des riceys valingrain for the state of washington, and would like to speak knowledgeably of this lovely corner of france.

Having just had the 2008 version, I'd say it's no great loss if we don't hear anything. Had to spike it with an open bottle of Port to make it drinkable.

a novel approach for a bad bottle of wine. yours does not sound representative. was it foul, or dead, and/or did you have multiple bottles that were all bad?

you don't think that louis/dressner would import wine of that nature, do you?

the few that i have had have been first of all, very good, and secondly, a niche unto themselves.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
originally posted by MarkS:
... olivier horiot rose des riceys valingrain for the state of washington, and would like to speak knowledgeably of this lovely corner of france.

Having just had the 2008 version, I'd say it's no great loss if we don't hear anything. Had to spike it with an open bottle of Port to make it drinkable.

a novel approach for a bad bottle of wine. yours does not sound representative. was it foul, or dead, and/or did you have multiple bottles that were all bad?

you don't think that louis/dressner would import wine of that nature, do you?

the few that i have had have been first of all, very good, and secondly, a niche unto themselves.

It wasn't bad, but it was the typical (earlier) Dressner import: thin, shrill, and acidic wine. It wasn't bad, just a factor of the vintage(s) used, the location (Champagne), and a naturalistic producer. The Port helped give it a body it never had, and the sweetness rounded out the hard edges. It helped it tremendously.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
It wasn't bad, but it was the typical (earlier) Dressner import: thin, shrill, and acidic wine. It wasn't bad, just a factor of the vintage(s) used, the location (Champagne), and a naturalistic producer. The Port helped give it a body it never had, and the sweetness rounded out the hard edges. It helped it tremendously.
Isn't April a long way off for this sort of thing?
 
originally posted by MarkS:
... olivier horiot rose des riceys valingrain for the state of washington, and would like to speak knowledgeably of this lovely corner of france.

Having just had the 2008 version, I'd say it's no great loss if we don't hear anything. Had to spike it with an open bottle of Port to make it drinkable.

tonight had my second 2009 (and last bottle schlepped back from ricey) and it was alive and beguiling. it became sort of a silk hanky soaked in baking spices. looking much more like a traditional red burg than a rose. with an 8+/- day maceration typical of rose des riceys, the question is, why is it not considered a red wine rather than a rose?
 
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